Dermacrine – The Closest legal thing to Injectable Testosterone.

[Eric Potratz]

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Dear AM,

Needing a testosterone base for your cycle? Not wanting to break the law or inject testosterone?

Dermacrine is the closest legal thing to testosterone, and is orally active using Liqua-Vade delivery technology. (1)

Of course, Dermacrine won't pack on 25lbs of lean mass like pure injectable testosterone, but it can provide some of the important benefits.

The main ingredient -

DHEA: A natural hormone that converts to androgenic/anabolic hormones.

Although DHEA appears to have limited conversion to actual testosterone, it will readily convert to the hormone androstenedione -- A very similar hormone to testosterone, with potent anabolic and androgenic effects. (1,2,9) Despite its ability to raise estrogen, androstenedione has been shown to significantly increase lean muscle mass and strength in men, while slightly reducing body fat. (2)

The liver also converts DHEA to the hormone 7-oxo DHEA, which is a powerful thermogenic hormone. Human studies have shown 7-oxo DHEA can reduce body fat by several pounds after only 6 weeks. (4-8)

DHEA can also support the immune system, and possibly prevent fatigue and lethargy from other steroid hormones. (10-12)​

$49.95 / 25 day supply at full dose

Grab Dermacrine here.

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Thank you loyal Primordial fans!


Yours in health & fitness,

Eric Potratz
Primordial Founder & President


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References -


1. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/137728-future-nutrient-delivery.html

2. Delta-4-androstene-3,17-dione binds androgen receptor, promotes myogenesis in vitro, and increases serum testosterone levels, fat-free mass, and muscle strength in hypogonadal men.
Jasuja R et al.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2005 Feb;90(2):855-63 Nov 2

3. Evolution of genital masculinization: why do female hyaenas have such a large ‘penis’?
Frank L
Trends Ecol Evol 12:58-62 (1995)

4. Ergosteroids: Induction of Thermogenic Enzymes in Liver of Rats Treated with Steroids Derived from Dehydroepiandrosterone.
H Lardy, et al.
PNAS, Jul 1995; 92: 6617

5. Ergosteroids VI. Metabolism of dehydroepiandrosterone by rat liver in vitro: A liquid chromatographic mass spectrometric study.
Marwah, A., et al.
J. Chromatog. (2002). B 767, 285-299.

6. Ergosteroids: induction of thermogenic enzymes in liver of rats treated with steroids derived from dehydroepiandrosterone.
LARDY H, et al.
Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 92: 6617-6619, 1995.

7. A randomized, double blind, placebo controlled study of 3 - acetyl - 7 - oxo - dehydroepiandrosterone in healthy overweight adults.
Kalman, D., et al.
(2000). Curr. Ther. Res. 61, 435-442.

8. The effect of 7 - keto Naturalean on weight loss: A randomized, double blind placebo controlled trial. Zenk, J., et al.
(2002). Curr. Ther. Res. 63, 263-272.

9. Physiological Changes in Dehydroepiandrosterone Are Not Reflected by Serum Levels of Active Androgens and Estrogens But of Their Metabolites: Intracrinology
Fernand et al.
Reproductive Endocrinology (1997) Vol. 82, No. 8 2403-2409

10. Activation of immune function by dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) in age- advanced men.
Khorram O, et al.
J Gerontol 1997; 52A:M1- M7.

11. Oral dehydroepiandrosterone in physiologic doses modulates immune function in postmenopausal women.
Casson PR, et al.
Am J Obstet Gynecol. 169:1536-1539. 1993

12. Novel brain function: biosynthesis and actions of neurosteroids in neurons.
K Tsutsui, et al.
Neurosci Res, Apr 2000; 36(4): 261-73.

 

[mdotmdot]

what would be better as a test base, this or 1-t?:dunno:

 

[kbtoy31]

3. Evolution of genital masculinization: why do female hyaenas have such a large ‘penis’?
Frank L
Trends Ecol Evol 12:58-62 (1995)

I like this ref. and I'm def. gonna have to look it up b/c I have always wanted to know why female hyenas have such large penises.

BTW I love all of PP's products. I wish I worked for you guys so I could get a employee discount. I haven't tried you guys Dermacrine yet but I am getting ready to run the TRS stack again for my PCT. Nothing brings me back better even from heavily suppressive cycles.


I was listening to a podcast and a Dr. said it was beneficial to run DHEA while on ghrp-6. i know this product is more than dhea but the Dr. has his patients on TD dhea while running the ghrp-6. I am researching it more b/c IDK if it would benefit the people taking mod-grf with the ghrp-6 or just people taking ghrp-6. So anyone out there running that peptide may want to look into the TD dhea.

I am looking forward to trying this product tho'. I also haven't tried any of the LV products yet b/c I am such a fan of the transdermals. Anyways let me know when you guys start selling stock, I'll pick some shares up.

 

[Steveee]

I'm loving Dermacrine LV and Havoc at the moment

 

[gymbo123]

what would be better as a test base, this or 1-t?:dunno:

BUMP for the answer

 

[Jimbo15]

what would be better as a test base, this or 1-t?:dunno:

Dermacrine. 1T converts to 1-test, not test.

 

[Eric Potratz]

I like this ref. and I'm def. gonna have to look it up b/c I have always wanted to know why female hyenas have such large penises.

BTW I love all of PP's products. I wish I worked for you guys so I could get a employee discount. I haven't tried you guys Dermacrine yet but I am getting ready to run the TRS stack again for my PCT. Nothing brings me back better even from heavily suppressive cycles.


I was listening to a podcast and a Dr. said it was beneficial to run DHEA while on ghrp-6. i know this product is more than dhea but the Dr. has his patients on TD dhea while running the ghrp-6. I am researching it more b/c IDK if it would benefit the people taking mod-grf with the ghrp-6 or just people taking ghrp-6. So anyone out there running that peptide may want to look into the TD dhea.

I am looking forward to trying this product tho'. I also haven't tried any of the LV products yet b/c I am such a fan of the transdermals. Anyways let me know when you guys start selling stock, I'll pick some shares up.

I was wondering if anyone was going to pick that reff up... they actually talk about androstenedione in that reff and how its responsible for the big penis of the female hyena ... aka androgenic effects.

PM me if your interested in shares in the company.

-Eric

 

[Eric Potratz]

what would be better as a test base, this or 1-t?:dunno:

Yeah, the 1-andro in 1-T can produce lethargy and cause libido trouble... Dermacrine is a better choice if you are looking for a libido boost.

-Eric

 

[rulk22]

Im goin to run Superdrone LV for 3 weeks. Id like to run the Dermacrine for the full 3 weeks with it. This sounds like a good stack to me, could I even run the Dermacrine even longer?

 

[qwerty33]

you could run the derm longer is you wanted. its not methylated

 

[fightbackhxc]

superdrone and dermacrine......nice. What an excellent stack

 

[qwerty33]

superdrone and dermacrine......nice. What an excellent stack

Sick idea man. Could run the derm with a Superdone kick start.

 

[Eric Potratz]

Im goin to run Superdrone LV for 3 weeks. Id like to run the Dermacrine for the full 3 weeks with it. This sounds like a good stack to me, could I even run the Dermacrine even longer?

Yeah, Dermacrine could be ran for 6 weeks if you wanted.

It might be more exciting to use SD the last 3 weeks to really kick in the gains.

-Eric

 

[RAZORBACK09]

How does Dermacrine compare to x-tren ?

 

[FAMOUSX1]

would it be possible to Pulse Superdrone and Decrimine M/W/F for 6 weeks together? or better to bridge it?

 

[natandrb]

would it be possible to Pulse Superdrone and Decrimine M/W/F for 6 weeks together? or better to bridge it?

Really curious about this too. I'm thinking about running this exact same cycle.
Seems like they would work very well together, just not sure if pulsing dermacrine has any use, or just running it 6 weeks straight while pulsing the SD. could get a little expensive, about $100 worth of dermacrine if I run it 6 weeks straight

 

[qwerty33]

Im not and i believe eric is not a fan of pulsing at all. But i would maby kick start a derm cycle with SD and run derm 6 weeks.

 

[xx Zues xx]

Dermacrine. 1T converts to 1-test, not test.

What is the difference? Thanks

 

[fightbackhxc]

I would bridge.

 

[jbryand101b]

off subject, I volunteer myself for a free 1month sample.

 

[kbtoy31]

It might be more exciting to use SD the last 3 weeks to really kick in the gains.

-Eric

I like this idea the best. I do this with my inject cycles. I will front load the injects to make it kick in a little sooner and then run the orals the last 6-8 weeks of cycle. it's incredible depending on the oral ( my all time fav is d-bol). It would be a little different with transdermal b/c I don't think you can front load them but IMO it's well worth the wait. Personally I am not a fan of superdrol, my body just does not react well to it, too many sides. But this is how I would run it.

 

[jaydollars]

Will derm help with sides, like maybe keep bp lower while running epi

 

[Steveee]

Will derm help with sides, like maybe keep bp lower while running epi

ive noticed slightly less sides from epi while running Derm along with it. less puffy nipples

 

[qwerty33]

will never run epi again in my life. only PH that ever gave me nipp probs

 

[RAZORBACK09]

I asked how this in comparison to x-tren, I ment as in how does it compare as far as strength and muscle gain? x-tren makes you feel like a animal in the gym, how does this compare?

 

[qwerty33]

I asked how this in comparison to x-tren, I ment as in how does it compare as far as strength and muscle gain? x-tren makes you feel like a animal in the gym, how does this compare?

better dude. im mid cycle. its tren without the lethargy and more strength

 

[RAZORBACK09]

better dude. im mid cycle. its tren without the lethargy and more strength

No joke? Whats your dosing/stregth and muscle gains so far?

 

[UKStrength]

Bump for Dermacrine LV!

 

[Punisher88]

I was planning on running superdrone and tren liquidvade, could I add dermacrine or would that be over kill???

 

[UKStrength]

I was planning on running superdrone and tren liquidvade, could I add dermacrine or would that be over kill???

You could, but if so I'd run the Superdrone and Tren LV at the minimum dosages (10-20mg/day superdrone and 2ml, 3 times per day of Tren LV) to prevent the chance of sides occuring.

It's actually a cycle I was planning myself!

 

[dbl38]

Does Derm. need on cycle support or front loading of anything else?

 

[flightposite]

Does Derm. need on cycle support or front loading of anything else?

dermacrine by its self wont need any cycle support IMO.

 

[qwerty33]

Does Derm. need on cycle support or front loading of anything else?

dont think so m8

 

[dbl38]

Thanks, I am going to run the Derm. stack from PP and will let you know how it goes!!!

 

[Jimbo15]

What is the difference? Thanks

Test can aromatize and cause some bloat, where 1-Test wouldn't

 

[qwerty33]

^ what he said

 

[Eric Potratz]

How does Dermacrine compare to x-tren ?

x-tren? Is that just diendione?

Its really totally different than Dermacrine. TREN causes mood swings, kills the libido, and causes gyno issues for a lot of guys. Dermacrine doesnt have any of those problems.

Id say TREN is stronger per mg, but you will certainly have more sides to deal with if you dose TREN high enough for big gains.

-Eric

 

[Eric Potratz]

Will derm help with sides, like maybe keep bp lower while running epi

I dont think Dermacrine will lower blood pressure. Hawthorn berry is good for that though.

-Eric

 

[qwerty33]

1g hawthorn ed is great for bp on cycle

 

[FAMOUSX1]

Soon as my superdrone gets here in going to run a 6 week pulse. I was going to start next week with Mdrol. But I wanna give this stuff a shot. 10-20 mg MWF

 

[qwerty33]

Soon as my superdrone gets here in going to run a 6 week pulse. I was going to start next week with Mdrol. But I wanna give this stuff a shot. 10-20 mg MWF

sounds like a great plan man. keep us updated.

 

[michael75]

I give PP their dues,they have created a superb marketing machine with excellent gimmicks that the easily impressed find irresistible.

PP is hitting hard,and i believe is succeeding...I take my hat off to PP for their creativity in churning out old products with a new look.The syringe appliction is ingenious,and LIQUAVADE tecnology,it reminds me of the skin and hair product industry that constantly invent new words that have never existed in the English language before.

PP have conqured the market,PP have arrived!

 

[UKStrength]

I give PP their dues,they have created a superb marketing machine with excellent gimmicks that the easily impressed find irresistible.

PP is hitting hard,and i believe is succeeding...I take my hat off to PP for their creativity in churning out old products with a new look.The syringe appliction is ingenious,and LIQUAVADE tecnology,it reminds me of the skin and hair product industry that constantly invent new words that have never existed in the English language before.

PP have conqured the market,PP have arrived!

Thanks for your support mate!

 

[mdotmdot]

Thanks for answering my "?" Now im thinking of using it on a 12 week bold 200cycle :439:

 

[kbtoy31]

I give PP their dues,they have created a superb marketing machine with excellent gimmicks that the easily impressed find irresistible.

PP is hitting hard,and i believe is succeeding...I take my hat off to PP for their creativity in churning out old products with a new look.The syringe appliction is ingenious,and LIQUAVADE tecnology,it reminds me of the skin and hair product industry that constantly invent new words that have never existed in the English language before.

PP have conqured the market,PP have arrived!

You're making it sound like their products are just one big marketing scheme when that is not the case. What is wrong with making old products better? That's the whole point isn't it? I agree with the old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" But if the product becomes better I am all for it. It's not just that PP says the products are better or good marketing they have the research to back it up. But I guess I am just easily impressed with a company that puts out products that do what they say for a change.

 

[Jimbo15]

I give PP their dues,they have created a superb marketing machine with excellent gimmicks that the easily impressed find irresistible.

PP is hitting hard,and i believe is succeeding...I take my hat off to PP for their creativity in churning out old products with a new look.The syringe appliction is ingenious,and LIQUAVADE tecnology,it reminds me of the skin and hair product industry that constantly invent new words that have never existed in the English language before.

PP have conqured the market,PP have arrived!

I am actually offended by this. Have you read the information on the Liqua-Vade delivery system? It helps deliver flavones and hormones to the system that normally have a bad absorption rate because they are not water or oil soluble. We've actually used science to make products more effective at a lower dose; not only is this not a "gimmick", it's more of a breakthrough in the supplement industry. :hitwithrock:

 

[drchildress]

Only time will tell!

 

[Punisher88]

awesome! i appreciate your response and look forward to it! good luck with your cycle as well!

 

[phonefool]

so if i was going to run an anavar cycle with a test base (hrt dose) - dermacrine at 5ml / day could serve the same purpose just as or almost as effectively? and if i understand correctly an on cycle ai would not be needed?

 

[RAZORBACK09]

What if you ran this, x-tren and superdrol LV? All at once? Would you be screwed?