Not sure if Im' seeing good results from T1/4AD

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    Unhappy Not sure if Im' seeing good results from T1/4AD


    Well, it's 11 days into this cycle. 100mg 1t dermal and 200mg 4ad dermal twice daily. I also increased the volume of my workouts some, and my diet is much more strict and higher in cals and protein than before.

    I'm up ~6lb, but I'm not really feeling any strength increase that I can notice. The only thing I'm really noticing is reduced soreness the days after my workouts. No unusual problems w/ gyno or acne - I'm taking B5 and have nolva on-hand just in case.

    I bumped up my dosage from 5 to 6 squirts each this weekend. What do you guys think? Should I just keep going?

    FWIW, I'm naturally VERY skinny and an extreme hard gainer. I have poor genetics, so maybe this just isn't going to work for me???

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    Just wait, the day is soon comming where you'll enter the gym, start your WO and say "WOW" at your strength. Make sure you are EATING. Eat until you can't eat anymore and keep it clean. You should make nice progress.
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    Let's see...6 pounds in 11 days: that puts you on track to gain about 18-20 pounds in a 30 day cycle. What makes you think you're not gaining enough???

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    most people report seeing it "kick in" at around the 2-3 week mark - i am sure you are fine and will like the end results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blown_stang
    FWIW, I'm naturally VERY skinny and an extreme hard gainer. I have poor genetics, so maybe this just isn't going to work for me???
    1. These are not magic beans. You won't blow up overnight.

    2. Your a hardgainer and up 6lbs. in 11 days and you think its NOT working?!!?!?!?

    3. This won't react like M1T in that you will feel it very fast. Both of these will take some time to "feel" it.


    Bro, its working and working well! I don't know what more you want. I'll take those gains anyday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    Bro, its working and working well! I don't know what more you want. I'll take those gains anyday.
    I'll second that.
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    Jesus man, have some patience

    As Chemo said, 6lbs in 11 days is nothing to scoff at. What were you expecting, to transform into the Incredible Hulk??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemo
    Let's see...6 pounds in 11 days: that puts you on track to gain about 18-20 pounds in a 30 day cycle. What makes you think you're not gaining enough???

    Chemo
    Since I'm not any/much stronger, I'm assuming it's mostly water/fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jweave23
    Jesus man, have some patience

    As Chemo said, 6lbs in 11 days is nothing to scoff at. What were you expecting, to transform into the Incredible Hulk??
    haha I'm just thinking that the weight gain is more due to my diet than the PH. I increased my cals a bit and protein considerably. Maybe I'm just being paranoid...
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    yea, dude. on a 1 test/4ad transdermal cycle i saw good stuff around the 2nd - 3rd week. don't worry
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    Quote Originally Posted by blown_stang
    haha I'm just thinking that the weight gain is more due to my diet than the PH. I increased my cals a bit and protein considerably. Maybe I'm just being paranoid...
    Thats why you should know your diet down to the calorie before you start hormones. Granted not everyone does this but then don't expect not to gain any fat if you don't.
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    Fat gain is your fault.

    Water retention often leads to strength increases.
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    I gained 15 lbs in the first 2 weeks - but I didn't have any major strength gains until ~week 3... then BAM... put PRs on about every upper body lift / about 30-60 lbs on every lift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    1. These are not magic beans. You won't blow up overnight.
    Hey Bobo, you know where I can get some of these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    Hey Bobo, you know where I can get some of these?
    i have some and they are very magic
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    Ya, I'm not esp worried about fat gain b/c I'm pretty lean right now. I guess I'm just being paranoid. Thanks guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    Hey Bobo, you know where I can get some of these?
    Don't listen to size, he has fake magic beans
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