Test Prop Mdrol Epistane Log hell ya!!
- 01-11-2010, 07:08 PM
Test Prop Mdrol Epistane Log hell ya!!
K guys today is my first day of my cycle. Here is my setup.
test prop - 12 weeks @ 300mg
M-drol - First 4 weeks @ 10/20/20/20
4 weeks of just test prop
Epistane - Last 4 Weeks @ 20/30/30/40
Lean Xtreme - Last 2 Weeks and continuing into first 2 weeks of PCT
Probly add more stuff to keep gains goin
AI Cycle Support (anabolic invoations)
GNC mega man sport multi
Anabolic xtreme liver support
BF: 12% about
I want to get some more size and stay lean, that is my overall goal.
I will try and post updates everyday but at least once every 3 days.
So far all i notice is my quad hurting from my injection lol. I have taken one mdrol pill earlier after my injection at around 12:30 pm PST.
I have gym later tonight, but I will be switching up my workout time probably to right after my first meal right after i wake up. I hear thats when your test is highest and most energy, but I will ask my bodybuilder dude what he thinks i should do.
Tonight is Legs and ending with very light cardio. I will post again if i feel new energy, even if its in my head haha. I will not be taking NO Xplode on cycle. I think my heart is going to have enough stress haha.
I do however drink waxy maize during my workout, Monster Maize to be exact. Freakin amazing stuff.
K guys hope u follow along and any advice you wanna throw out to me let me know.
This is techinally my 2nd cycle but the first one was home made sust 250 and i felt nothing, gained nothing, waisted moeny so ya this is pretty much my first.
Thanks for reading guys!
- 01-11-2010, 08:22 PM
Im subbed to see how well this goes... Where is your AI? Even if you dont use it, you should stil have one on hand...
01-11-2010, 08:24 PM
01-11-2010, 08:32 PM
Save the Lean Extreme for PCT and cortisol control. The cortisol spike usually spikes about 1,5-2 weeks after your last Test P injection. I have used before for cortisol control. Seemed to me that it worked great.
01-11-2010, 10:29 PM
i think you may want to up your dose of prop .. i dont think its gonna be enough to prevent libido loss or enough to retain gains made from the superdrol... what did u plan to use the hcg at.. i dunno id think to really keep those superdrol gains.. maybe u would wanna bridge to the epi.. for 6weeks of orals at the begining and then run just the test for a few weeks after that until pct... that way your body gets some time off orals so its a little easier to recover in pct... and this way your only on methyls for 6 weeks instead of 8. ..
Maybe something like this
weeks 1-10 (400mg test prop) or even weeks 1-8 (450mg test prop)
weeks 1-4 (superdrol 10/20/20/10)
weeks 3-6 ( epi at 20/30/30/40)
weeks 2-10( hcg 500iu 2x weekly)
i dunno its up to you... but i just ran a cycle of test prop kickstarted w/pplex.. hcg also.. my libido died into the third week... even with test prop.. it didnt pick back up till i upped my test a bit.. i was doing like 350mg a week to start... plus i was running hcg.. i was going to bridge to epi.. but i didnt cause i blew up from the pplex.. but i wish i did now since slowly but surely on just a low dose test i lost some decent weight.. i kept all my strength tho = )
01-12-2010, 01:47 AM
01-12-2010, 01:50 AM
Thoughts on that?
01-12-2010, 02:02 AM
yea man u can do either for pct clomid or nolva... clomid is prob a little better.. unless u have some issues with gyno then nolvas the way to go .. but they both do the same thing essentially... for future cycles look into torem.. its a new age serm and has very good feedback.. has the positives of clomid and nolva into one.. its a happy medium for sure.. and the only reason i would say use the hcg that way is because i feel it well help the shutdown from superdrol..+ ive always heard its better to run hcg in small amounts on cycle then in pct... but it will work the way your saying also.. so good luck.. looks good man.. get ready for some sick strength gains
01-12-2010, 02:00 PM
01-13-2010, 03:01 AM
Tuesday - Had a great chest workout, felt pumped and a ton of energy. Not seeing strength gains yet of course.
Sides: Pain in quad from injection, causing me to limp and I don't know what im gonna do tomorrow..am i going to slither around? Lol
Also noticing trouble sleeping a tiny bit. Not taking any pre-workouts, but still feeling a bit trouble. Any suggestions to fix?
01-15-2010, 01:17 PM
Friday - Feeling lots of energy at gym. Feeling that "am i done?" feeling.
Sides: Trouble sleeping at night and find my body waking it self early every morning, 730-830ish with my stomach hurting. I think its telling me to go eat, that kind of pain.
01-16-2010, 02:56 PM
01-18-2010, 11:57 AM
Subbed bro. I am extremely interested in your cycle. Results, pain from injections. what size and guage of needles you're using, what sites you're rotating and pinning. Is it possible or practical to draw and pin with the same needle? Ever? Well, that question's for another cycle I have planned later on using Test-Cyp. This go with the Prop, I'm going to preload all syringes. Have to due to the "satchets".
I'll be starting a Test-Prop cycle real soon. Thinking of 125 or even 150mg. EOD because I've done many oral only cycles and I weigh 245 at the moment with 12% bodyfat. This will be my first injectable cycle too. I'm thinking of kick-starting mine with some Alpha-Tren that I have. It's 40 mg. of Tren and 10mg. of Phera per cap and I'll take 3 caps per day for the first 4 weeks of what will be an 8 or 10 week cycle of the Prop. Thinking about using 25mg. of Proviron everyday with this run too just to free up test and keep bloating at bay.
I know this is a lot of questions but I wanna have it all down right before starting.
Thanks Bro and I'm excited for you to say the very least!!!!
THE PAIN YOU ENDURE TODAY WILL PRODUCE THE POWER YOU ENJOY TOMORROW!!
"Ye are gods, and all of you are children of the most High."
01-18-2010, 12:18 PM
Day 8 - Week 2
Still up in weight a tad, like 4 pounds. Energy in the gym is great, haven't worked out today yet tho. I will let u know how that goes
I am starting 2 pills of the mdrol today (20 mg)
Sides: Pain from injections still there but this is last time i mention it cus is not a side haha. I feel a bit lethargic. Whenever I wake up early, like today, around 8:15 am. My stomache hurts so i get up to go eat and I can't eat anything, it hurts to eat like bad. Not sure what this is yet. Hopefully it goes away but I got some food in me, then I'm just waiting to go eat when I feel better.
I feel vascular even when im not pumping, just freakin sitting there, loving that haha. Don't you guys hate if you get to exited about like your upcomming cycle you tend to tell your buddies about it, then like to many people know? I kinda did that haha, oh well. Just more of a reason to get my results.
01-18-2010, 10:29 PM
Day 8 Monday - Chest Workout was great. Loads of energy and seeing strength going up.
Current weight is 168.
01-26-2010, 10:40 PM
Day 16 Tuesday - Back Bis. Workout was great. All workouts have been solid as hell.
Yesterday Chest tris I felt my chest so pumped i thought it was going to tear. Never been that pumped before.
Sides: Noticing fevers about 4-6 hours after I inject test prop. Anyone know anything about this?
01-27-2010, 07:18 AM
01-27-2010, 05:07 PM
02-02-2010, 08:48 AM
Very intrested in this cycle as well. Thinkin of running sust with epi and proviroin with winstrol at
the end. You have any progress pics?
02-04-2010, 03:57 PM
No progress pics yet. might not take any cus i don't have any good cameras but here is update.
Strength and stamina are through the roof. Before cycle. I was hitting 185 on bench bringing the bar down to mid chest, so i was using tris and shoulders and i was only getting it like 4 times locking out. I am now neck pressing 185 10 times + 3/4 reps so im not locking out and im not bouncing it off my chest. And 135 feels like the freakin bar 30+ reps no lock outs.
Current weight. 171 lbs. so far ive gained about 10.
02-13-2010, 07:34 PM
02-13-2010, 08:03 PM
I know I'm late, but...
I do agree that upping the dose of Prop would be good, though. Even for a beginner I'd recommend something at least in the 500mg/week range as I doubt there would be much of an increase in sides from 300mg/week. "Solidifying gains" has more to do with actually making more gains so when the glycogen/water goes away post cycle it doesn't "seem" like you lost too much - and upping the Test would definitely help there.
I also agree with running hCG on-cycle, and not post-cycle. The concept of running hCG during PCT is an outdated one. It's best used on-cycle, 250iu every 3-4 days at least 2 weeks in and stopped before going into PCT. Keeping your balls full-sized the whole time is a much better idea than letting them shrink and then trying to "shock" them back into size. The aromatization from hCG should also aid in preventing loss in libido.
Just my $.02.
03-03-2010, 02:43 PM
K guys i havent updated this cus thinks changed so heres everything.
I dropped the prope after on week 4. stopped the mdrol (worst idea ever. screw prohormones.) i picked up test enanthate 300 and started that on week 5 and dbol also. almost done with dbol one more week. been on both of those for 3 weeks. Strength and size is great. repping 225 on flat bench without locking out. Weight is at 175. I do not retain water so thats why im not like 180+ so the dbol is not bloating me. I picked up arimadex too on week 2 of dbol cus i felt sensitivity in nipples.
Next week starts the last 4 weeks of cycle where i will do test e. epistane. and tren. real tren not a oral hormone eff those.
03-03-2010, 08:22 PM
wow what a horrible execution of a cycle....still, the switch to test enan was smart. less painful, less volume, and less frequent injections.
what was wrong with the mdrol? just lethargy or something else?
03-03-2010, 08:28 PM
dude what the hell.. so basically your cycle has 3 methyls now... u went mdrol.. to dbol...to epistane...
03-05-2010, 03:18 AM
im not on epistane at the moment. and not all methyls are liver toxic. they just enable the molecule to survive through your liver. and yes the mdrol i felt lethargic and didn't gain much out of it really...but this is part of figuring out things and just when u think u know it...u dont lol. so i start tren monday and i can not wait for that. im up to 176 today and im squating 315 like 7 times never was able to do that in my life. so i think my cycle is turning out great for such a messed up thing. people are saying dude how are u getting so huge..so my 10-12 pounds is being noticed and so are the stretch marks under my arm puts to my chest ...this is the one time where im happy to see stretch marks haha
03-05-2010, 12:26 PM
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