How much 4-oht

  1. How much 4-oht


    I have been thinking of alot of different cycles but the newest I am thinking of is adding some 4-oht to a 4AD dermal. I will run this for 5-6 weeks while running 4 weeks of M1T at 10mgs ed.


    A possiblitlity is 8 grams 4ad and 2 grams 4oht in the dermal (the dermabolics matrix). Is this enough?

    Your thoughts would be appreciated.


  2. I use the same 4ad/OHT ratio in my transdermals with good results. I had a little bloating still with that & m1t. You could go up to 3g OHT, but I doubt you'll need more than that.
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  3. I threw 2.5 grams in my last trans (out of 10g), I dont know how much of a difference it made but I do know I didnt have any sides.

  4. Just wanted to do the math for everyone to make recomendations easier.

    Dermabolics transdermal-----8 grams of 4ad and 2 grams 4-oht:
    426mg 4ad and 106mg of 4-oht and 10mg M1T all split in two dosages 12 hours apart
    I would run the M1T for four weeks and the dermal for six.

    The other option is just to go with the 4ad and leaving out the 4-oht.

    So what's the general consensus, is it worth the money for the 4-oht?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by juststarting
    Just wanted to do the math for everyone to make recomendations easier.

    Dermabolics transdermal-----8 grams of 4ad and 2 grams 4-oht:
    426mg 4ad and 106mg of 4-oht and 10mg M1T all split in two dosages 12 hours apart
    I would run the M1T for four weeks and the dermal for six.

    The other option is just to go with the 4ad and leaving out the 4-oht.

    So what's the general consensus, is it worth the money for the 4-oht?
    if you really want to feel the 4-oht i would do 4-5 grams with 4-5 grams 4-ad
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  6. how are you mixing it? Just adding the 4-oht powder to the 4-ad and shake?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by flexster
    how are you mixing it? Just adding the 4-oht powder to the 4-ad and shake?

    That's what I was hoping. Let me know if I am mis guided

  8. I just finished a cycle where I put 2.5 grams of 4-OHT in a bottle of T-4 (5 grams of 4-AD). Just put it in your bottle, shake, give it a warm bath, and shake some more. It may be a little grainy at first, but the grains will disolve with rubbing, and over time in the bottle. Worked well for me.
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