1st cycle, help please

  1. 1st cycle, help please


    This is my first cycle, ive made my research.

    1-12 test enanthate @500mg/wk
    1-12 ED nolvadex @20mg and proviron @50mg
    12-16 clomid @ 300mg day1,100mg 12-13 ,13-14,50mg 15-16
    1-16 nolva@20mg ed


    using nolva and proviron i think its very unlikely to get gyno ?
    expecting 10 pounds, opinions are welcome


  2. Don't use novla unless needed, will most likely hinder your gains if used during cycle

  3. I personally would add an anabolic like deca or eq and lower the test to get about 500mg/week total. Otherwise it looks solid.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by bad rad
    I personally would add an anabolic like deca or eq and lower the test to get about 500mg/week total. Otherwise it looks solid.
    You're not gonna benefit too much from such little amount of eq or deca. For a first cycle, i would keep the test where its at (500mg/week) and use a 'jumpstart' compound like dianbol to have something kicking in til' the enanthate comes into factor several weeks into the cycle. The nolva during is fine. Ive done it. I rather sacrifice a pound here or there... i would drop the dosage however, down to 10mg ED. Btw, if your goal is to obtain 10 lbs in 12 weeks.... you could do that with a solid diet and creatine. Aim high or think about if you really want to be using AAS. (just a thought bro)
    Sage

  5. Also, if you do your last shot of enan in week 12, you shouldn't start your PCT until week 14.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  6. well ...my goal is the maximum weight and strenght i can get in 12 weeks (my diet is ok and training is on top). i think its better to use only test to see how my body reacts to the secondary effects, its my first time. just hope not getting gyno.

    1-12 test enanthate @500mg/wk
    1-12 ED nolvadex @20mg and proviron @50mg
    14-17 clomid @ 300mg day1,100mg 14-15 ,15-16,50mg 16-17
    1-18 nolva@20mg ed

  7. Quote Originally Posted by salu
    well ...my goal is the maximum weight and strenght i can get in 12 weeks (my diet is ok and training is on top). i think its better to use only test to see how my body reacts to the secondary effects, its my first time. just hope not getting gyno.

    1-12 test enanthate @500mg/wk
    1-12 ED nolvadex @20mg and proviron @50mg
    14-17 clomid @ 300mg day1,100mg 14-15 ,15-16,50mg 16-17
    1-18 nolva@20mg ed
    higly unlikely you will gyno from only test @ 500 mg/wk .... just have yout PCT in check and go at it

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Also, if you do your last shot of enan in week 12, you shouldn't start your PCT until week 14.

    ManBeast
    Off subject, but would that apply to Cyp as well?

  9. yes
    for something like eq, wait 3 till last shot

  10. Instead of jump starting w/ another compound, would frontloading the test at 1000mg for week 1 then 500mg per week throughout the rest of the cycle allow the test to kick in sooner? I've read of some people doing this with good results.

  11. one more thing i want to quickly point out -- since you are 23 and this is your first cycle, expect more than 10 lbs. I did my first cycle at 23 and it was exactly the same. I put on 22lbs, and kept 18 of them. Keep your goals high bro, you can easily put on serious weight on the cycle you are on.
    Just keep your calories high, and workouts intense and taxing.

  12. is HCG needed ???

  13. IMHO any cycle that is 8 weeks or more should have HCG being used during to help recovery afterwards.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
  

  
 

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