First trip to the dark side...
12-09-2009 05:41 PM
Up the test to about 650mg a week if you can. The little extra will go a long way.
Be sure to spread out your dbol if you are getting the 5mg tabs. I take one or two every couple of hours, the increase in blood pressure makes me feel like jumping through the roof, plus its a little rough on the stomach. You may handle it differently though. Last time I did 6 weeks of dbol I upped to 40mg the last week, bad idea. made my arms feel like they were going to explode.
If you think you are eating enough, you aren't. My last cycle included dbol, and I know I could have gained more if I ate more. I was throwing down a good 4K calories a day, plus 2 and a half protein shakes. Anytime you feel like eating, can eat, etc....EAT. I did a cycle simalr to yours. Test (andropen), eq, dbol, and went from 155 to 172 in 6 weeks, given that a good half of it was probably water weight.
12-09-2009 10:20 PM
Dude if you weigh 160 it ain't gonna be conspicuous. You're gonna have to eat an assload more anyway so just tell people you've been eating big and lifting big. (If they even ask)
Originally Posted by teteak
12-09-2009 10:25 PM
DO NOT DO ORAL ONLY CYCLE!! It is a huge waste.
-First of all I would definitely focus on eating at least 4k calories a day...like previously stated, eat as much as you can if you are trying to gain.
-Definitely run test-e for your cycle, however, you need to play around with the dosages of test till you find your proper dosing..too much and you are just wasting it and risk "test-flu". I'd probably start at 400 mg/week and I would not run anything higher than 600mg/week for your first cycle. D-bol shouldn't be run for more than the first 4 weeks of your cycle, it is used mainly to "jumpstart" your gains.
As far as your PCT goes, if you are running test-e, it has a long half-life (10.5 days) so the recommended wait time to start is 2 weeks from your last injection...this gives enough time to make sure the test is out of your system.
12-10-2009 02:09 AM
your diet is fairly lean. multiply your body weight by 15 or 20 and that should be the amount of carbs you should be consuming. remember, without bulking you're only going to gain very few pounds of muscle a year. CARB LOAD, BULK, THEN CUT!
12-10-2009 04:36 AM
damn id hate to be a hard gainer. if i took any desinger steroid right now i know it would be easy to get over 10 pounds. shoot i cant even imagine a stack or a injection cycle. carb up. i eat carbs all day and i gain steady.
12-10-2009 12:04 PM
Honestly you may want to consider holding off on the cycle until you can see a steady increase in your weight without test. Either way, the problem with your diet is that you are not eating enough. If you are truly a hardgainer....then you simply get to eat more and not get fat. Soo eat! Try hitting 5000 cals and see if you are putting on muscle or if you are getting fatter? Still lean? Eat more!..... You could easily hit 190 on this cycle if you are eating.
Basically max out the amount of food you can put in your body without increasing your bodyfat significantly and you will be happy.
12-10-2009 02:49 PM
lift heavy and hard and hit legs really heavy. start aiming for big numbers
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