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    cycle help....


    6'4 195 lbs 12% bf (guess)


    This will be my first cycle, want to start it beginning of may.I was thinking:

    Test 500mg weeks 1-10
    Dbol 30mg weeks 1-4

    PCT will have nolvadex

    any ideas im open to any suggestions

    Goal: GET MASSIVE

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    Good first cycle
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    anyone else?
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    I really like simple cycles, especially for a novice. I think it is a good cycle and you should make solid gains. One possible addition if you have access to it would be to add proviron at 50mg ed.
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    looks good...what kind of test are you running?
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    SIZE- thanx for the tip bro

    KMAC-im not sure yet, i have to see what i can get, any particular kind you suggest over others?
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    Id say prop if you can stand the ED or EOD shots. It has a shorter ester and you will see effects (both positive AND negative) sooner than if you use a longer ester like enanthate. This seems to make more sense for a first cycle as you will be able to see how the test affects you both postively and negatively.

    Size & MD..your thoughts on this?
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    if its your first cycle, go with enanthate or cypionate. pinning ED or EOD will be painful and annoying especially for your first cycle.
    quick advice: use 25g pins, don't mess around with 23g for pinning. MUCH MUCH less pain. I used to hate pinning with 23g, then i switched to 25g, i dont even mind EOD injects now.
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    thx for the tip CrazyNut, sounds good
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    Doesnt it depend where u pin.Id say 23g for glutes and 25g for everwhere else just like what spotinjections say.I cant contort my body pinning my glutes and waiting for my test to go through a 25g.I think i would cramp over and cry.My 23g already takes a while.But yes I do believe 25g would be much less painful afterwards.
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    well if you hand is shaking, then it is going to hurt like hell and be sore also. But I am in the crowd that likes the 25g. 1" for everything but glutes and 1.5 for them
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    i don't know how the exact mechanisms work, but i used to walk with a limp when i used 23g on my quads.
    yeah my hands shake quite a bit, that could just be me.
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    I like this cycle, very simple and effective
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    Quote Originally Posted by jweave23
    I like this cycle, very simple and effective

    roger that
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    I would use either cypionate or enanthate being that it is your first cycle. Prop is nice but the frequent injection can be difficult for a first cycle.

    I use 25g 1" for everything.
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    Nice first cycle looked very similar to mine. I ran prop and dbol. I would recommend using enanthate or cyp though because the pain and frequent injections of prop almost turned me off from pinning.
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    Very good first cycle.

    Not wanting to state the obvious (but I will do it anyway), ya wanna get BIG - ya gotta EAT!
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    size- thx for the tip man

    jminis- how did the prop werk for you?

    spooler- will do brother
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    Prop works great but as they said cyp or E is better for a first cycle. Otherwise you could end up hating pinning, especially if you get a painful prop.
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    Mmmmmmmm prop (and then there's some of us who LIKE a bit of bite to our gear )

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
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    Hey I like giving the shots to myself, but you and I are sick like that
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    lmao ^
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    I really don't mind them at all. But if other people like medical personell give me shots I get quezzie. Go figure.
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    HAH! I definitely prefer giving myself shots right now... I wish it was truly safe to give myself my antigens (simple sub-q shot), but the chance of anaphalayctic(sp?) shock isn't worth the slight inconvenience it causes in my life.

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    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
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    If you haven't decided on a test yet, then why not use sustanon. Run it at 250mg every 2-3days for the first 2 weeks then drop it back to 500mg every week. This way yo take full advantage of the fast acting ester in the first two weeks and by then the long acting ester kicks in and you can drop the dosage.
    Bump to the 25ga's. Warm the juice up before injecting. This will thin the oil and you can inject a little faster. After load my syringe, I hold it under hot, running water for 2-3min. Helps alot.
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    ruffneck, how does the sust compare to the test?
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    Sust 250 is test, it just has four different esters all in one shot. 30mg of propionate, 60mg of phenylpropionate, 60mg of isocaproate, and 100mg of decanoate.

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    Sustanon is not a better idea.

    Enanthate or cypionate is a better choice. They are typically cheaper, you can make it yourself, injections are less frequent.
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    Manbeast- silly me

    size- thx for the tip, im gunna stick with either of those.

    quick question, how long after the last shot of test should i begin nolva
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    2 weeks on Enth and Cyp
    3 days on prop
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    sounds good bro, thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40 in 12
    size- thx for the tip man

    jminis- how did the prop werk for you?

    spooler- will do brother
    Prop works great bro I'm just saying for a first cycle (pinning for the first time) it's gonna sting a little. I love using test prop now but for bulkers and or longer cycles I prefer enanth or cyp. But remember Test Prop is a helluva drug, I'm Jminis bitch
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    werd thanx for the help jminis


    what do you guys think about adding winny in towards the end of the cycle to harden up and solifify gains a bit?
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    Just my opinion, but seeing as it is your first cycle, I wouldn't get too complicated with things.

    I would keep it simple for the first one, and go from there.
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    Test is best. Just go with cyp or E on your first cycle, like everyone has already advized you to do.
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    ivan and sifu- your right, thx, i think i was gettin a lil a head of my self too...
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    I have to agree no reason to get over complicated.. keep the diet in check and see how things go
  

  
 

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