Any thoughts would be awesome. I have read plenty on both of these just want to get down to the nitty gritty of it![]()

Since you are talking about some pretty hard core stacks, you could always go for a tough, probably side filled, sd tren stack. This would be a tough cycle, but you could see some AMAZING size AND leaning out gains.
I second Mdrol Tren stack if you can take it
I'd LOVE to run something like this
mdrol 0/10/20/20/20/
Xtren 60/60/90/90/90
I ran 6wks of phera kicked off with 3 wks of sd... Best cycle ever run. It was a bulk and added 20lbs and was able to keep all the weight. Very very little sides. Have a log check it out. But if u want it leaner def sd and epi makes more sense.
Right on man. I have some time to think about it anyhow. I actually think I am subbed to your log my friend. Thinking about doing the Mdrol/pplex before trying the Tren honestly. It is a rough cycle with the Tren from what I have heard and read. Also, with it being winter when I run the cycle it would make sense to just go with the bulk and save the bulk/lean cycle for spring/summer time frame. Making sure, of course, that I have given myself enough time to recover from the previous cycle.
mdrol/pplex is really good for bulk
the mdrol/epi might be too dry, in other words you'll be feeling it in your joints
current logs
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/213804-gold-feast-controlled.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/212003-lets-do-some.html