fina vs. m1t

[ps24eva]

yep thats right...

fina vs. M1t?

in terms of sides, safety and effectiveness

 

[ManBeast]

Already asked a bunch of times....
c'mon people... get creative with that serch function!

ManBeast

 

[supersoldier]

Fina vs. Chevron, now that's the debate Man, I've lived in Texas too long, get me outta here

 

[chi_town]

Tren over any methylated products....taking all things into account.

 

[ps24eva]

Already asked a bunch of times....
c'mon people... get creative with that serch function!

ManBeast

Well I already know much about these compounds of course. I wanted a straight comparison though by other people's opinions. I didn't see another thread like this in the search function.

 

[ManBeast]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13359
goes into a bit of a comparison.

ManBeast

 

[ps24eva]

yeah but there wasn't anyone who did M1t and tren in there

Isn't there anyone who's done fina and M1t (not together of course)?

 

[bigpetefox]

I've done both in my first run.. I like tren better.

Sides with M1T: lethargy, flu-like symptoms, painfull lowerback pump, dry joints, high BP, nose bleeds (didn't happen to me, but it does), dark urine regardless of how much water consumed..

Side with Trenbolone: Constantly hot, night sweats, pissy attitude , oily skin, muscle pumps hurt abit, violent bouts of coughing which resulted in me coughing up blood..

I used tren from weeks 6-10, M1T from weeks 1-3, then last week of cycle..
Tren dose was 80mg EOD, M1T was 20mg ED first time, 10mg ED second..

I'd rather be hot all the time than not be able to walk across my bedroom without my lowerback throbbing..

 

[csrulez]

BigPete,

Did you supplement with Taurine for the lower back pain on the M1T?

 

[bigpetefox]

Nope...

 

[ps24eva]

bigpetefox,

i sent you a PM

 

[bigpetefox]

ps24eva,

i sent one back

 

[ps24eva]

Is there no one else whose done both?

BTW, tren seems a lot safer, or am I wrong in this?

 

[maggmaster]

tren is not as liver toxic as a 17AA

 

[bigpetefox]

Is there no one else whose done both?

BTW, tren seems a lot safer, or am I wrong in this?

I used them both together, yes, answered that.. I meant to put I finished my run with both, my bad..

Trenbolone isn't liver toxic, not c17AA.. Is is safer? Well, that's still debatable..

 

[smike319]

I am currently running both at the same time: M1T 5mg ED, Tren 150mg EOD. I do supplement with Taurine and NAC, and drink plenty of water. The only time I get severe lower back aches is when I get out there in my yard and try and do a lot of "Manuel Labor". I worked in the yard for like 4hours straight one time and was practically bed ridden(sp?) the rest of the evening, very, very painful.

 

[raybravo]

well , not comparable at all , m1t is like a mass drug for me , tren didnt put on muscle as quick , although ive used m1t only once and tren a lot of times .

 

[omar castillo]

M1T sides are bad period, Tren's sides are bad too, but I'd would with Tren since is not hepatoxic as M1T is .
I did not know about taurine and lower back pain, that is good to know, How much (dosing) a day though...?

 

[Bean]

i dont get many sides from M1t other than slightly elevated blood pressure, slightly oily skin, and acne (which i am prone to it anyway)

as far as lethargy goes, i didnt notice it at all; mojo stayed up... this was on my first cycle, btw...

on my most recent cycle:
i ran a 10 wk cycle of test prop at 150mg/EOD
ran M1T 2 weeks at a time at 20mg/day with 2 week off periods...
had great results with it... this is the 2nd time i've run M1t and had good results both times...

i've run fina before too and got decent gains from it but i ran it by itself... i got pissy, etc... not many other sides than that...

i dont get any lower back pain with M1T... it gets pumped when i do deadlifts, etc... but it subsides after an hour... and it does even hurt... just makes my back harder to bend because its stiff

 

[smike319]

M1T sides are bad period, Tren's sides are bad too, but I'd would with Tren since is not hepatoxic as M1T is .
I did not know about taurine and lower back pain, that is good to know, How much (dosing) a day though...?

2000mg ED. Thats 4 pills ED spread out throughout the day.

 

[Makaveli_786]

You can use Potassium for painful pumps too.

 

[smike319]

You can use Potassium for painful pumps too.

Yes but according to Bobo Taurine is a better choice. He explained why in a previous thread but I'm to lazy to look it up right now.

 

[supersoldier]

Yes but according to Bobo Taurine is a better choice. He explained why in a previous thread but I'm to lazy to look it up right now.

I believe it's because taurine is either potassium sparing or actually increases potassium stores in muscles.

 

[SCORPIO]

I'm using 3gr of each taurine/potassium a day (spread 3x day) and still have a tight back all day on 15mg M1T.