trandermal limitations FINADERM?!?!?!?!
03-05-2004 09:55 AM
Wasn’t sure were to put this so mods please move if necessary. Finaderm has made some pretty tall claims some of which are obviously bull****. (how you can claim that transdermal delivery will prevent liver damage is beyond me). Their also claiming that there product has a absorption rate of ~80% for items less then 400MW. I can’t see how that could possibly be. So here is my question. Is it theoretically possible to have a absorption rate that high for any reasonable MW item?
03-05-2004 10:11 AM
Who is Finaderm and where can I read their claims? Is it some thread here?
Originally Posted by Skye
03-05-2004 10:55 AM
03-05-2004 12:39 PM
I read the thread.
Never does it mention "how much" product you can put in it
Never does it mention how applications are measured. A roll on and a spray? how many mg/application?
These are ? i was surprised no one asked.
Last edited by size; 03-05-2004 at 03:19 PM.
03-05-2004 12:58 PM
I don't think anyone got past the other things first. But I just looked back at the web site and they have changed it. There used to be several pages to it and now it only one page. maybe they got called on too much bull****
Originally Posted by size
Last edited by size; 03-05-2004 at 03:20 PM.
03-05-2004 02:12 PM
This same topic was brought up here before. If you look at Trenbalone Acetate CAS#49707-37-1 the MW is 312.2. Subtract out the Acetate and you're left with Tren Base: 312.2 - 59.02 = 253.18. That isn't too high of a MW. I'm not saying I believe the claims but without research I can't say it's right or wrong.
03-05-2004 02:23 PM
Yeah, Bass just deleted my post and then threatened to ban me. It's okay for this guy to call people who question him stupid apes, and comments about how the pharmaceutical companies would somehow let this slide by them, inane, but I'm the ******* for just asking for proof.
Plus I made the comment, that with this guy's attitude, I would just wait for someone to reverse engineer the product and buy it from them(if it works), which apparently Basskiller took personally. I guess when there is money involved, ethics go out the window.
03-05-2004 02:30 PM
I wish Bobo and Chemo would go over there and own that dude. As much as I respect Basskiller, the only reason he is being so nice to Dr. Doctor and his outlandish claims, is becuase he's a sponsor there along with the no-flame rule. The no flame rule is harder to abide by than hte 10 commanments.
I mean c'mon, you don't see Chemo doing this type of crap when something gets out-of-hand like this, he steps in, unlike over there.
03-05-2004 02:48 PM
I am faster than 80% of all snakes
It seems a flame constitues anyone who opposes their collective opinion. Its not worth getting into a debate when one side is selectively filtered out. Sounds more like an Elite type tactic to me. No thanks.
Its seems simple to me. If you make claims, back them up. In this case he is definetly dancing around the issue and not answering ANYTHING directly. Smells more like a scam to me. I sure hope not.
03-05-2004 02:52 PM
Yeah, in the last hour I've been threatened with banishment now three times by Bass and some mods. Not a board I will be frequenting to often, methinks. I even brought up how I've never seen that type of board managment except at Elite and got the word that if I post in the thread again, I'm gone. I don't really know this Bass character or his mod's but they don't seem to be any different than what they were accusing Presser of.
03-05-2004 03:21 PM
If it did work it would be great. However, I am extremely skeptical.
03-05-2004 03:29 PM
SirFoxx, which board is the discussion of this product taking place? This product was brought to my attention a couple of weeks ago, and I've been trying to find more info on it.
03-05-2004 03:35 PM
look at the 3rd post down - it has the link - WCB.
03-05-2004 03:36 PM
Doh! LOL my bad long day.
Originally Posted by goldylight
03-05-2004 03:40 PM
Bass asked me to leave and never come back. I don't have very much respect for the guy since he seems to be easily bought.
03-05-2004 03:52 PM
I love the fact that Dr. Doctor refuses to answer any questions in which someone refers to illegal substances, yet the name of his product is FinaDerm.
03-05-2004 04:00 PM
yes,i dont know who bass' is, but i got burnt by a certain research ko. that he praises and he had to ridicule my claim just because the're a sponsor for his board. i doudt ill be back there, i only registered so i could let everyone know what they did............btw dont anybody here buy from them theyl rip you off ! and i think there quality for what i did get sux. along with there buisness practices.
03-05-2004 04:36 PM
Sounds like Bull**** to me. I don't beleive any pharmaceutical company (with all their dollars spent on research) ever came up with a study proving more than 20-25% availability. Just talking off the top of my head here, feel free to correct me.
Originally Posted by Skye
I beleive androgel is only considered about 10% availability.
03-05-2004 06:48 PM
I'm not defending Dr. Doctor, but he's prob not answering questions pertaining to illegal things due to the nature of the product that he's selling. In order to sell research products one has to be carfull what they claim their product does. If the seller is found saying that the item is used for some purpose (illegal) other than what it is beaing sold as, he can later be charged with illegal activity. That also might be why there is no mention of how much fina it will hold, etc...
Originally Posted by NPursuit
03-05-2004 08:06 PM
I am faster than 80% of all snakes
Then don't advertise and sponsor yourself on a BB'ing board and name the product "Fina"derm. I think him not answring questions is simply because he has zero proof at all about anything he's claiming.
All he as it to say "Hypothetically, if this was being used for other purpose, ....."
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