Homebrew Test Cypionate

[crazypete]

while looking for the 4AD to test reaction i found this:

if you can get silver carbonate, then you can make test cypionate from 4ADcypionate avaiable from kilosports

1 mole 4AD cypionate to 1.86 moles of silver carbonate in benzene

if someone can get the reagents needed for a worthwhile price, i will work out the exact steps

cheers, pete

[crazypete]

nevermind the above chemicals, apparently manganese dioxide will work for this product too, along with 4AD to test and 19nordiol to nandrolone.

basically MnO2 in a cheap, inert solvent (MnO2 is cheap too), room temp, couple of hours, tada, the 3OH is now a ketone, pour through a coffee filter, wash with water, dry, your done.

if you want to inject, go with test cyp, if you want to go the transdermal route then just make test or nandrolone and mix in with 1-T.

oh yeah, apparently the yield is 90+% and is a specific reaction, no other products.

i'll try to post an exact procedure within a couple of days

cheers, pete

[Lifeguard]

damn fine work pete..I've been following you quest for "kitchen conversions" and I must say...I am truly impressed with your tinacity.

 

PS..is it really THAT simple?

 

LG.

[crazypete]

apparently so. but it depends on your previous knowledge. remember that i have had to carry out much more complicated procedures in the past at both work and in school, so this would be easy for me. but for those with no previous chemistry education it may seem very hard. i guess it is a matter of perspective. perhaps i have oversimplified the actual steps that this would take, but the reaction itself is quick, specific and complete. the reason it works is because of the double bond between carbons 4 and 5. it helps stabilize the intermediate and then forms a resonance structure as there are conjugated double bonds. the extraction of the test would be the harder part, but this is relatively easy too. i think it would be no harder than getting steroids from cattle implants, maybe even easier.

cheers, pete
PS anyone reading this, please feel free to ask questions even if you understand very little, i'm more than happy to fill in backgroud info for those without a chem background

[curt2go]

Looks good. But I think someone will have to do it see the yeild and het it tested to see if it worked. Thats all. talk to ya....

[wojo]

well kilos' cyp is only 92-93 percent..according to this email i recieved today from there customer service..i'd rather inject 1-test

[crazypete]

good point wojo. i guess it would be cheaper to make your own esters anyway. if the 4AD to test works out well, it would only be an extra few steps to add the ester. what the yield would be i don't know, but i think it would be quite high, we'll see.

cheers, pete
PS from now on this thread will contain the procedures to add esters (any ester) to the parent hormones instead of converting 4ADcypionate. BTW check out YJs thread on esters in this section.

[Bean]

how we doing on adding esters?

thinking of going this route since 4-AD is so much cheaper

and i speak on this on both the conversion of 4-ad to test but also on the 4-ad itself...

kilosports still has the 4-ad ester but they want you to buy 25g of the stuff

[pogue]

I would like to know if its possible to remove the acetate ester from tren and add a longer one.

[size]

Parabolan was a longer acting tren

[Bean]

yes but you can't buy it for $35 per 2g either

i'd also like to know about a longer ester on tren

[ManBeast]

I had posted this as a question before, here's a link to it:

http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ght=tren+ester

not much use, but it is there. Also, I think that LG found a longer ester tren (similar to cyp if I recall) at some not-too-safe/reliable looking website.

ManBeast

[PLer]

Isn't there a way to just purify the 4AD cypionate? I think I read something on another board about it.

[crazypete]

howdy, i was out of commision for the last few days (big wipeout in the halfpipe). okay, some answers and commentary:

bean - i have no idea on exactly how much it would cost to add an ester, but i imagine propionate is quite cheap, the cost of the others depends on the cost of the alcohols for the ester desired. as for the procedure, hopefully by end of next week.

pogue - sure why not. the question is what is the cost. although with tren being expensive, it may well be worth it.

size - true.

bean2 - also true. i'll try to work on a conversion.

manbeast - lets make our own, we'll know what's in it and how much, also cheaper.

PLer - sure, but it would probably be just as easy to make your own from 4AD, plus a greater choice of which ester

i read in one of the steriod reference texts that the THP ether (tetrahydropyranyl ether) helps slow delivery and promotes slightly stronger binding to steroid receptor. interesting.

cheers, pete

[ManBeast]

I'm all for makin my own sauces and such

ManBeast