monsterbox
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I've ordered two bottle havoc, considering its going to be discontinued soon. I don't plan on running it for a good long while, probably once I get my TRT situation figured out. However I want to get some things figured out.
I have arthritis in my right elbow caused by jagged cartlidge that rubs against the bones and causes inflamation/pain/stiffness. Its generally fine for most movements once the joint is warm.
My last cycle of havoc, 6months ago, at 40mg/day, my elbow became extremely inflammed/dry like sandpaper inside. I couldn't even take off my shirt or do a pushup and had to abort cycle at 14 days. Less than 8 days later, my elbow felt way better and I was back in the gym. At the time of the pain, I started dosing cissus and glucosamine but I guess it didn't have a chance to kick in. I was taking 5g fish oil.
I now use Cissus regularly along with 1200mg liquid glucosamine/msm/chondroit +5g fill oil. I still have pain after hard chest days and tricep extensions.
I'm really worried about havoc at 40-50mg killing my elbow again even though I will be on these supplements. What can I do to absolutely prevent dryness by the compound? Is there a way I can increase estrogen through lots of DHEA or something? What about running Alflutop along with Havoc at 40mg. Theres a possibility that I'll be on TRT with around 100mg/test week...if I dropped my AI at the time and used havoc would that help?
What are the options out there besides cissus/glucos/fishoil that really work?
I have arthritis in my right elbow caused by jagged cartlidge that rubs against the bones and causes inflamation/pain/stiffness. Its generally fine for most movements once the joint is warm.
My last cycle of havoc, 6months ago, at 40mg/day, my elbow became extremely inflammed/dry like sandpaper inside. I couldn't even take off my shirt or do a pushup and had to abort cycle at 14 days. Less than 8 days later, my elbow felt way better and I was back in the gym. At the time of the pain, I started dosing cissus and glucosamine but I guess it didn't have a chance to kick in. I was taking 5g fish oil.
I now use Cissus regularly along with 1200mg liquid glucosamine/msm/chondroit +5g fill oil. I still have pain after hard chest days and tricep extensions.
I'm really worried about havoc at 40-50mg killing my elbow again even though I will be on these supplements. What can I do to absolutely prevent dryness by the compound? Is there a way I can increase estrogen through lots of DHEA or something? What about running Alflutop along with Havoc at 40mg. Theres a possibility that I'll be on TRT with around 100mg/test week...if I dropped my AI at the time and used havoc would that help?
What are the options out there besides cissus/glucos/fishoil that really work?
...But then the joint pain kicked in, I was on every support for joint and liver I could think of prior realizing that Havoc/Epi could cause joints to dry out, unfortunately no help...It took me a solid month to recovery from constant pain, but left me with some lingering joint issues/problems. I tore cartilage in my knee (not the meniscus but the one that adheres to the bone) and ruined the Labrum in my right shoulder (required surgery)...Now I'm not blaming the Havoc completely as I should have probably been a bit smarter realizing my age and not going so heavy, but the fact remains the Havoc contributed. I would strongly advise to be very careful when using this product and stay keen to any joint pain that pops up...
