18 year old 50 mg m1t
- 02-10-2004, 03:35 PM
- 02-10-2004, 03:54 PM
It's not the fact he's 18 that is the big problem with him. It is moreso that:
1) He shows he's done ZERO research on proper cycling...if he did any research on M1T (hell even if he read the description on it), he'd know 50 MG is more than double the max he should be starting at.
2) He is nowhere near his natural limit, looking at that kid's pics reminds me of the before pics in ads for some miracle weight loss pill.
3) Being 18, he opens the floodgates for other kids around his age to do this kinda thing. They'll think "oh yeah, he's doing it, why shoudn't I?"
Now it would be a completely different story if he did his research and had been anywhere near his natural limit first. But that is definitely not the case here.
- 02-10-2004, 04:28 PM
02-10-2004, 04:31 PM
funny thing is, he's not joking about what he says. he really is that stupid.
case in point:
pretty soon, im going to run my own cycle of IM PH's.
Just gotta get done with the M-1-T and the 4AD i just ordered first.
What im planning is a 8 week cycle.
1g 1-test cyp weekly. divided into two doses given biweekly.
frontloaded at 2g the first week.
then 4ad orally. 2g per day.
possibly 30mg M-1-T per day after the first month.
for pct, 600mg of 6-oxo for 2-3 weeks post cycle , then 3-4 weeks at 300 mg. I might take it during cycle in case 4ad conversion starts aromatizing too much.
Possible hcg use if i have the money.
I think the benefits of injecting 4ad is minor.
4ad converts to testosterone by enxymatic processes which occur in the liver. So either way, orally or IM, the 4AD has got to pass through the liver some time.
I want to point out the fact that these doses in this cycle are extremely high, and nobody should attempt this cycle without some experience behind them.
I wont attmept this for another month, but when i do ill be sure to post my progress.
02-10-2004, 04:48 PM
Funny that he's doing all this before joining the Navy where in basic training and his advanced school he won't have the ability to even keep on any mass he makes during this.
02-10-2004, 04:52 PM
He's going to screw up his endocrine system so bad that he will be crying like a baby after the first week or 2, that is, if any of it is true, it would be fun to watch him get weaker while everyone else is getting stronger, I hate to say this but he reaps what he sows
02-10-2004, 06:33 PM
now hold on a minute. i think you guys think of posts as a meter of intelligence.
Of course you learn more the more posts you read, but you truly learn outside of this forum. studying research and books on this topic.
People treated me like an ignorant bitch when i first joined because i said food, not supplements, is the most important thing in bodybuilding, and people flamed on me.Instead of just taking the easy way out and taking our freedom away piece by piece, they should help inform those about the effects of prohormone use and how to make inteligent decisions.
I aint going to deny that teenagers really dont care about the dangers. They just want to be cool. But instead of making ph use shunned by all, they should help kids make the right choice for them.
And they should sell pct to anyone, regardless of age.
This will increase the amount of teenagers who use ph's with pct, so it will increase the safety issue.Like PCT is the reason that youngin's shouldn't use PHs.The point isnt to make ph's illegal for teens, its just to inform them that they need pct following that.
Ill bet you a ton of people who buy ph's never even heard of pct.
If they did, wont you think theyll at least consider taking pct during a cycle?
02-10-2004, 06:43 PM
Yup. This kid is an insult to human intelligence. I'd like to see if he really has the balls to shoot the 1-test cyp. If he's really going into the Navy I'd be much more concerned over developing some cardio endurance over a heavy duty PH/steroid cycle.
02-10-2004, 07:19 PM
I know a 20 year old who ran M1T 40mg/day for 3 weeks with not PCT at all.
He was thin and got pretty big.. I'd say 10-15lbs gained.
He lost pretty much all of the weight he said post cycle.. what a waste. but he experienced no visual sides. but the worst side effects yuo can't see
02-10-2004, 07:54 PM
I was always under the impression that you should have built a solid foundation before using AS/PH. That fat ****er has a bird chest and I'll be damned if he's trained more than 3 months. He looks pretty bad for being 186lbs and diving into PHs head first.
02-10-2004, 08:19 PM
02-10-2004, 09:29 PM
02-10-2004, 09:30 PM
02-10-2004, 09:55 PM
02-10-2004, 10:35 PM
I reported his thread and asked it be closed, what a ****tard. If I had more energy (sorry, cutting ) I would write some lengthy and adjective-filled opinion on why this guy should be beaten about the head with blunt objects.
02-10-2004, 11:13 PM
02-10-2004, 11:18 PM
02-11-2004, 12:04 AM
02-11-2004, 12:08 AM
02-11-2004, 12:46 AM
Well we dont necesarily know that the hepatoxicity at 50 mgs will be insanely high, we do know that side effects will suck and we do know that the kids to young to be taking ph's at all let alone such a crazy dose. What I dont understand( and i havent read the thread) is why someone who has read that people make good gains off of 5-10 mg would feel the need to do this to themselves. Its like spending 5 times as much money on same gains high side effects, I know all you guys know this I am just asking if anyone has talked to this guy and has any idea why he is doing this. Navy seals training requires you to be in excellent shape but any muscle mass you have will be aminly lost during the training. Seals come out beaten and broken with cortisol levels through the roof. What this guy really needs to do is start running 20 miles per day and swimming as much as he can and get the hell used to being colder than anything. My father helps train SF guys and Ive seen the way they look when they come out. This guys is in for a world of hurt if hes really going through BUDS
02-11-2004, 01:18 AM
Maybe if they(bb.com/higherpower) didn't make m1t so freaking cheap, then we wouldn't have to deal with this type of crap.After i got home from school, i recieved my PH's in the mail.
Just to put up some thanks to bb.com ( i ordered from Higher Power), and their speedy delivery. Always have been that way.
02-11-2004, 01:53 AM
Is SeALs school even open to all? I know SF changed their enrollment standards a few years ago. Hell, it's a pain in the ass to even get into Air Assault school unless you're stationed at Cambell or Drum. Besides, all that hardcore **** looks good on TV but you've got to be different, and I mean different, to go through with it, let alone graduate. And with a kid on the way, give me a break. He's going to be so homesick when he gets to Great Lakes or wherever they send him his attitude will change real quick. That's even if the let him on the plane after he goes to MEPS for the last physical and piss test after what he plans on doing to himself on ship day. And everyone is correct, you lose tons going through basic or boot. I came out one skinny SOB after basic and AIT. Calisthenics, crappy nutrition, and sleep deprivation and mass go together like rose scented toilet paper.Originally Posted by maggmaster
02-11-2004, 02:45 AM
he isnt even in the freaking navy yet, he is ignorant as hell and thinks he is gonna be a seal cuz his recruiter told him he could be. recruiters got quotas to meet.
02-11-2004, 05:52 AM
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02-11-2004, 11:15 AM
02-11-2004, 11:16 AM
02-11-2004, 11:24 AM
This guy gives BB'ing a bad name, and I don't doubt the validity of x_muscle's claim, but i don't think one cycle is what did it, probably years of abuse.
-Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
-Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
*I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
02-11-2004, 11:59 AM
02-11-2004, 12:01 PM
He tells a 15 year old to take 6oxo....
"6-oxo is not going to dramatically effect your test levels giving you steroid-like symptoms and side effects. It will just give you an edge over everyone else going through puberty."
02-11-2004, 12:01 PM
02-11-2004, 12:21 PM
02-11-2004, 12:44 PM
I just started TRT and it is not cheap even with insurance. It gets pretty daunting when you figure out your going to be doing it for the rest of your life...and I am only 30. This axehole is one of the biggest tools bb.com has had lately. Reminds me of YJ a bit.Originally Posted by bj mun
02-11-2004, 01:08 PM
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02-11-2004, 03:28 PM
02-11-2004, 04:28 PM
Really? How could someone even tell?Side effects: increased appetite, decreased attention span
See, guys....its not his fault he's a moron. It's the whopping 50mg of M1T crancking his poor think-box.Yes, ive been getting some really out of this world side effects already.. where i feel like im about to lose my mind.
I really try not to call people names, but what a tool.
I have a huge interest (personally and financially) in the safety of M1T, but this reasoning is like saying, "Well, I do a gram of coke just this once. Nothing will happen because I'm not a habitual user...what the hell does acute mean?" What a tool.but one cycle of 50mg m1t will not damage my liver to a great extent.
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