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  1. E Dog / Legal Gear sig file on bb.com


    "EDog


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    Don't serve time for ordering Nolva or Clomid, try Formadrol V2 for PCT and E control on cycle! Due by the end of Feb. Preorders on the LG site at a big discount."


    Comments?

    M


  2. Sounds like one of LG's "interesting" new marketing scare tactics...

  3. LG is turning into the whores of the online supplement industry. Did I say that out loud
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  4. ha?


    [QUOTE=mark]"EDog

    ..............HA ..... what do u mean ? where can find this info ?

  5. What a crock of ****....


    Formestane for post cycle? Bwahahahaah......
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  6. Edog admitted its just a joke/marketing scheme on a post over at bb.com. Said he was prob going to take it off too as it has ruffled some feathers.

  7. Well, I just got my nolva from PN today, and it wasn't delivered by any feds. I gotta tell you I was real nervous because I'm on the LR costomer list.

  8. I highly doubt anyone will serve time for having an ancillary on hand...interesting method of marketing though.

    Chemo

  9. wonder if they are going to ship handcuffs with each order..

  10. Quote Originally Posted by mark
    "EDog


    __________________
    Don't serve time for ordering Nolva or Clomid, try Formadrol V2 for PCT and E control on cycle! Due by the end of Feb. Preorders on the LG site at a big discount."


    Comments?

    M
    Unless I missed something, the active ingredient in Formadrol is 4-hydroxyandrostenedione, which is arguably weaker than 6-OXO. Considering that LegalGear supplies M 1-T, promoting a product this weak for PCT for potential use with M 1-T can be considered quite irresponsible. I have even said so (in kinder words) on Eric's own board. (Yes, I live on the edge sometimes, but someone has to tell it like it is.)

  11. I was banned over there for having a argument with J Benz, what a putz.

  12. Geez, I am surprised... no not really

  13. Who me? I would never cause trouble

  14. No that JB would have banned anyone for disagreeing with him

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Cogar
    Unless I missed something, the active ingredient in Formadrol is 4-hydroxyandrostenedione, which is arguably weaker than 6-OXO. Considering that LegalGear supplies M 1-T, promoting a product this weak for PCT for potential use with M 1-T can be considered quite irresponsible. I have even said so (in kinder words) on Eric's own board. (Yes, I live on the edge sometimes, but someone has to tell it like it is.)

    Thats because he's clueless.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...0&pagenumber=2
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  16. That just makes me sick

    I'm not the foremost expert on biochemistry by any means, but the fact of the matter is you cannot just talk out of your ass and expect no one to call you out on it. Formestane for PCT?! WTF we knew this was ****ty idea from Bill L and PA's exchanges last year, am I wrong?

    BTW nice Death of A Salesmen reference by the clown

  17. Quote Originally Posted by jweave23

    BTW nice Death of A Salesmen reference by the clown

    I was just about to say that. That was the funniest blast I've seen on a board in a long time.

    I don't understand why he's being an ass about the leaglity of it all just for a buck. Is he going to pull the same stunt with ephedra free thermos in a few weeks?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by jweave23
    That just makes me sick

    I'm not the foremost expert on biochemistry by any means, but the fact of the matter is you cannot just talk out of your ass and expect no one to call you out on it. Formestane for PCT?! WTF we knew this was ****ty idea from Bill L and PA's exchanges last year, am I wrong?

    BTW nice Death of A Salesmen reference by the clown
    Well check it again because he came back for another beating.


    Bobo "my biochemist told me I'm right"
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by BingeAndPurge
    I was just about to say that. That was the funniest blast I've seen on a board in a long time.

    Seems nobody over there got it. Wonder why
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  20. Because they haven't graduated high school yet.

  21. Aww....Poor Eric gets his ass handed to him from Pat too. I feel soooooooo bad....


    This guy is a ****in moron. He's getting worse than VPX. His "biochemist" is an idiot too.
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  22. I take it the honeymoon is over between AM and Legal Gear?

  23. You could say that. Eric is banned for life.

  24. LOL.. you could say that custom.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by sifu
    You could say that. Eric is banned for life.
    Wow. I am definatly behind on my gossip. Any particular reason (that can be mentioned) why?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by custom
    Wow. I am definatly behind on my gossip. Any particular reason (that can be mentioned) why?
    We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you. mwahahahah..

  27. im new to the board to- so lg isnt respected here at all? arent they the
    ones that brought you m1t?.........sorry if im totally off on my ph history

  28. Quote Originally Posted by brooklynheight
    im new to the board to- so lg isnt respected here at all? arent they the
    ones that brought you m1t?.........sorry if im totally off on my ph history
    They were the first ones to bring it to the public masses. But M1T was around before that in underground labs. I don't think the actual reasons that they aren't welcome here anymore are anybody's business but Chemo's bro. Although I won't lie, I love gossip as much as the next guy.

  29. Fear is the biggest seller of product. I think we all know that. We all do things to stir up business. We have all done things that are pushing it as far marketing. It will be interesting to see what they say about things at the arnold. When consumers are confronting them and they can't hide behind a computer. This goes for a lot of people. Many can put together a good flowing response on a computer, put them in front of a person, watch the studdddddddddering.

  30. damn i hate not knowing all the inside scoop..i love the gossip
    Im a real Bitch!

    throw a dog a bone, a link or something

  31. Quote Originally Posted by 1Fast400
    Fear is the biggest seller of product. I think we all know that. We all do things to stir up business. We have all done things that are pushing it as far marketing. It will be interesting to see what they say about things at the arnold. When consumers are confronting them and they can't hide behind a computer. This goes for a lot of people. Many can put together a good flowing response on a computer, put them in front of a person, watch the studdddddddddering.
    No Mike, we "all" don't do things to stir up business, speak for yourself....

  32. Quote Originally Posted by Jergo
    No Mike, we "all" don't do things to stir up business, speak for yourself....
    There is a difference though Jergo. Mike doesn't claim to be anything other than a business man from all the posts I've ever seen him write. Eric on the other hand claims to be some sort of innovator in the industry because he was the first company to market a M1T product. Big deal. He reformulates products based on other peoples formulas. Now that does go on in this industry and is to be expected but to claim to be a company that is the "leader" in innovation is the biggest crock of **** I've ever seen. He is bascially another Rodney of Nutrabolics that when faced with scientific fact or criticism doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. I'm actually suprised he gets away with the amount of crap he does on bb.com withouth hearing it from other companies. I think Pat can be an ahole at times (everyone can) but it sure is funny when when he starts picking apart his products. Its sad when I can pick it apart and I have zero formal education in then scientific field. Its sad when someone like me can make you doubt the release of your own product. Its sad when I know more about the suppressive nature and am more familiar with the literature than he is. When it comes down to it, Eric has never researched a damn thing or come up with a supplement without the help of someone else or some other company. The sad fact is that most of that is indirectly too. It would be ok if he didn't claim to be such an "innovator". At least Pat, Chemo, Derek, Matt or a host of other company owners will sit in a library and research their products. Mike bought a line of products that directly competes with BDC but the simple fact he doesn't goes around claiming to have the best transdermal available and how he is such an innovator in the industry allows him to be free and clear of us bashing him here. Eric basuically buys loyalty on bb.com buy giving away samples. The majority of people over there will defend him simpoly because the get free product.
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  33. Quote Originally Posted by brooklynheight
    damn i hate not knowing all the inside scoop..i love the gossip
    Im a real Bitch!

    throw a dog a bone, a link or something
    There is no link and no explanation. It was a difference in philosophy and thats all that will be said about it. His actions and marketing tactics speak for themselves.
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  34. Another case in which Eric is clueless yet bashes others:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=226136
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  35. Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    He is bascially another Rodney of Nutrabolics that when faced with scientific fact or criticism doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
    Ouch....that has to hurt.... I understand what you mean though.

  36. Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    Eric basuically buys loyalty on bb.com by giving away samples. The majority of people over there will defend him simpoly because the get free product.
    Good point. I'm tired of his games, and now this latest stance on DMFA and DMSO in the dermals is dangerous. Well Eric if that was the case then why did you sell them for so many months?

  37. Quote Originally Posted by NPursuit
    Good point. I'm tired of his games, and now this latest stance on DMFA and DMSO in the dermals is dangerous. Well Eric if that was the case then why did you sell them for so many months?
    I participated briefly in the DMFA vs. DMSO debate over at the Avant boards. Frankly, it amounts to product bashing. I have a science background and am familiar with chemicals, OSHA data sheets, etc. Although I understand there are some risks with any product, I use and recommend the BDC transdermals.

  38. Exactly Cogar and I appreicate your honesty. There is risks in anything yet he chooses to exploit 3 studies that when looked at with some sort of intelligence clearly show the dangers are minimal at best. This is the type of marketing that just makes me sick. I really hate to get into it like this especially since it get very ugly at time but it just has to be done. This guy dseserves it in every way.

    And I quoted you in that thread too showing how minmal the risks are. Your point that was made at Avant was perfect.
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  39. Again, thanks Cogar for some voice of reason with this, it seems to be getting harder to come by IMO.

    Eric is doing nothing but attempting to gain business through word manipulation and free samples, then backs down when confronted regarding science of his products or his bashing of the science of other products. Seems rather obvious to me.

    Bash competitors = Eric's product looks better
    Eric's products look better = more sales
    More sales = well you get the drift

    I won't say Legal Gear has "bad" products, but I will say this: their head spokesperson needs to learn when to keep is mouth shut and possibly try some different tactics if he wishes to sell alot of product. Ulter has tried the same thing in the past and it hasn't helped his public persona at all, which can have a significant impact on sales

  40. Well his tactics seem to be working rather well over there unfortunately. LG is reminding me of VPX. Decent to good products and incredibly poor sales tactics.
  

  
 

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