4th week with Havoc, no weight gain...WTF?

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  1. how about laying out a full day's worth of what you eat, with times and as close to measurements as you can get. that will help


  2. 8AM- Protein Shake
    8:45AM- Bowl of cereal and cup of cottage cheese
    11AM- Protein bar
    1PM- Lunch (grilled chicken, beef, etc.)
    4PM- Tuna or peanut butter sandwich
    6PM- Pre workout shake
    8PM- Post workout shake
    10PM- Dinner (grilled chicken, beef, etc)
    12PM- Protein Shake
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by nparisi View Post
    I have been looking more vascular but that's about it. I am definately experiencing the dry joints..I just ran out of fish oil too. Phera was next on my list...it would only be my second cycle not sure if I'm ready for SD. I don't feel shutdown at all from this cycle and I'm debating whether or not to even take the SERM (nolva) but I think I will just to be safe.
    Unreal, how harsh was phera for you?


    To the other comment about my workout it is:
    Mon:Back
    Tues:Chest
    Wed:Legs
    Thurs:Shoulders
    Fri:Arms
    Weekends off
    Usually sets of 8-12 then end with a heavy set of around 6 (totaling no more than 4 sets, 3 exercises per body part)
    Cardio is 5 min light before workout every day and about 2 hours of ice hockey per week.
    Phera is good to me, i've run up to 50mg. At 50mg i got nip sensitivity (went away quickly tho), so i think 40mg is the sweet spot. Only other side I got was a few back pumps, not too bad at all.
    The mass gains are pretty decent (not as much as Superdrol though) and the strength is pretty nice (again much less than Superdrol). What i noticed in my 2 phera runs is that the strength gains come very late in the cycle.

    Next time, i'm running it for 6 weeks
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon75 View Post
    8AM- Protein Shake
    8:45AM- Bowl of cereal and cup of cottage cheese
    11AM- Protein bar
    1PM- Lunch (grilled chicken, beef, etc.)
    4PM- Tuna or peanut butter sandwich
    6PM- Pre workout shake
    8PM- Post workout shake
    10PM- Dinner (grilled chicken, beef, etc)
    12PM- Protein Shake
    I'd double check your caloric intake. If you're consuming more than you're burning, you'll gain weight even without the Havoc. Besides, from what you listed, it doesn't look like 4000kcal, but I could be mistaken.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    I'd double check your caloric intake. If you're consuming more than you're burning, you'll gain weight even without the Havoc. Besides, from what you listed, it doesn't look like 4000kcal, but I could be mistaken.
    I added the calories based on the labels and other charts. I should note that I go double on the scoops for the shakes, and use milk with some.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon75 View Post
    I'm on my fourth week of Havoc and I've experienced no weight gains. I started at 200lbs and I'm still there. I've been eating like horse, at over 350g of protein per day. My cycle is 20/30/30/30. Other supps include, White Flood, Purple Wraath, fish oil, green tea, multi, glucosamine, resveratrol, and flax seed oil.

    I've also been working out heavier and more frequently than ever.

    Not sure what the deal is.


    Maybe the reversatrol brought him into an early PCT.

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!











    I know he meant the grape seed extract and not the PCT product from I-Force.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by droppinplates View Post
    Maybe the reversatrol brought him into an early PCT.

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!


    I know he meant the grape seed extract and not the PCT product from I-Force.
    I laid off it this week just in case.

  8. Maybe you have an overactive thyroid. In any case, if you're not gaining weight just eat more.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    Maybe you have an overactive thyroid. In any case, if you're not gaining weight just eat more.
    I used to be a skinny kid and it took a bunch of years to put on muscle. I think it's just harder for me to put on weight. If I eat anymore, I'm gonna go broke and I'll never get off the toilet.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon75 View Post
    8AM- Protein Shake
    8:45AM- Bowl of cereal and cup of cottage cheese
    11AM- Protein bar
    1PM- Lunch (grilled chicken, beef, etc.)
    4PM- Tuna or peanut butter sandwich
    6PM- Pre workout shake
    8PM- Post workout shake
    10PM- Dinner (grilled chicken, beef, etc)
    12PM- Protein Shake
    IMO, this diet needs CONSIDERABLE work. Not only to gain weight, but just to be healthy! Not a vegetable or a complex carb in SIGHT!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Coachese View Post
    IMO, this diet needs CONSIDERABLE work. Not only to gain weight, but just to be healthy! Not a vegetable or a complex carb in SIGHT!
    I have veggies with lunch and dinner and I eat fruits. I just didn't list them.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon75 View Post
    I have veggies with lunch and dinner and I eat fruits. I just didn't list them.
    I'm no expert (seriously), but I would have thought that if someone asked you to post your diet, you'd of posted EVERYthing you ate? It kinda of defeats the purpose of listing what you ate if you only list 1/2 of it and omit serving size.

    Good luck in the future brohamus!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Coachese View Post
    I'm no expert (seriously), but I would have thought that if someone asked you to post your diet, you'd of posted EVERYthing you ate? It kinda of defeats the purpose of listing what you ate if you only list 1/2 of it and omit serving size.

    Good luck in the future brohamus!

    Yup... It would really help if you listed everything. Also your Weight, BF% and a workout sample. Are you doing cardio?
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