no pct if going straight to hrt

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  1. I am just talking out of my ass.

    I dont have any studies, but i am looking

    i just thought this was the way androgel worked. Barely a little testosterone, not exceeding normal levels. So people with low test can have a normal, non testicular atrophying, life.

    He did not mention his schedule of HRT and it would be nice to know what all it entails.

    This same guy has another thread just like this going as we speak. It is getting the same results.
    pct and androgel
    Last edited by Yimen E.Cricket; 02-08-2004 at 01:55 AM.


  2. hrt is androgel 5g ed
    i have no signs of gyno
    i think ill just keep the nolva incase
    also my balls havent shrunk at all
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  3. what im asking is, will i loose my gains if pct just brings me back to
    my natural low level?

  4. the way im understanding this is basically, youre going from a higher blood level of test [on cycle] back to a lower level of test just resuming the hrt and if you encounter any atrophe use some hcg. also just keep some nolva onhand just in case of some gyno ariseing from the high "e" after cycle.

    maybe if the "e" is anticipated to be high afterwards maybe some armidex durein cycle then resume hrt......please correct me if im way off base.

  5. [QUOTE=Yimen E.Cricket]Hes not on hcg.
    But very very low doses of androgel can raise baseline without suppression if monitored and administerd properly.
    QUOTE]

    No. Not doses that duplicate normal levels. 2.5mg of anavar per day causes near-complete supression.
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  6. didnt say he's on hcg. just a trying to get a grasp of this whole thing !

  7. I may be missing something, and no, I did not read the other thread yet, but when someone comes off a cycle, their estrogen levels will be higher. Just because you do not have to raise natty test (due to the HRT) does not imply that you do not need to reduce the estrogen back to "normal" to keep that from being a problem. Therefore, it makes sense to me to use nolva for PCT unless there is some compound in the HRT designed to suppress estrogen.

  8. i thought when your body detcs to much test upsetting the balance of test/ estrogen then production of test halts and estragen becoms dominent , so i was thinkin add some armidex to the cycle reducing "e" then go to hrt .. will it work ,i dont know

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Cogar
    I may be missing something, and no, I did not read the other thread yet, but when someone comes off a cycle, their estrogen levels will be higher. Just because you do not have to raise natty test (due to the HRT) does not imply that you do not need to reduce the estrogen back to "normal" to keep that from being a problem. Therefore, it makes sense to me to use nolva for PCT unless there is some compound in the HRT designed to suppress estrogen.
    Most people on HRT utilize arimidex throughout (not constantly, but periodically as prescribed by the doc.) This helps with the e, but should someone not be taking their anti-e in conjunction with HRT then it is sensible to run nolva and arim when returning to HRT in order to bring things back under control.
  10. Talking


    well, i didnt know people on hrt use armidex periodically , i just thout it migh be a good idea. learn more everyday
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