M1T PCT...Lost All of My Gains
02-04-2004 03:13 AM
will adding some trib or a natural test booster help get the test back along with the nolva or do u guys just stick with nolva..?? My first PCT, I used vitex, trib and 6-oxo, this worked ok, but now M-1-T I'm on the nolva....
02-04-2004 09:34 AM
I tried tribulus a while back & didnt notice any difference. I read somewhere that tribulus may actually increase suppression during PCT, so I stay away from it. Nolva is all you need. You could combine Nolva & Clomid for a real quick recovery.
Originally Posted by mike69
02-04-2004 10:15 AM
It may help but I wouldnt go as far as saying REAL QUICK recovery.
Originally Posted by Longdog
02-04-2004 10:34 AM
I agree 100% I notice shut down on any substance after a week. Then I wonder what is the point of short cycles. Why not do longer cycles with bigger gains? M1T is toxic so I can see why we want to keep them short, but with other substances why not longer? Then again I have only done one long cycle and it was 1-AD and 19-nor which of course keep me shut down for about 3 weeks but that was 3 years ago when I only used ZMA before I knew about liquid products. But I like the idea of quick recovery. Its not worth it to me to be shut down for weeks after a long cycle.
Originally Posted by bioman
So what is your guess on the time it takes to get shut down enough to make recovery longer? Why not 3-4 week cycles?
02-04-2004 11:00 AM
I also like the idea of a faster recovery through shorter cycles. I guess it depends on if shutdown if relative to time on or absolute. If I'm screwed for several weeks post cycle regardless of cycle length, then obviously it would be better to make your cycle longer and more productive to offset the stagnation post cycle.
Originally Posted by badbart
02-04-2004 05:21 PM
Yeah, that sounded overstated.
Originally Posted by db682
Its debatable whether test levels will recover faster by using nolva & clomid. I know for sure that my libido recovers in half the time using both.
02-27-2004 01:50 PM
Anybody ahve any suggestions on where the best place to come across Clomid and Nolva???
02-27-2004 02:05 PM
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