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I keep seeing more and more cycle of h-drol going up to 100mg. This seems extremely high to me. So I would like input on this cutting cycle:
100/100/75/75
100/100/75/75
Since it is a short cycle for the compound I would like to get my blood levels high in the begin of the cycle and keep them there.why would you downward taper?....do tit the other way around if your gonna....and a 100 really isnt that high...and hdrol needs to be ran for 6 weeks to get the best effect
Besides epi what could be more effective then this for only 4 weeks?i wouldnt run hdrol for a short cycle, starting tht high is probably going to give you one hell of a bp spike too....but its common to go to 150 with hdrol and not even unheard of to go as high as 200....but i dont think its worth your time unless you do it for 6 weeks
Do people really go that high? The CEL reps never recommend going over 75mg. I feel like it would be safer to use less of a stronger compound than 200mg of H-drol.but its common to go to 150 with hdrol and not even unheard of to go as high as 200....
my last cycle was epiwhy not epi? why does the cycle have to be only four weeks....im planning a cut soon and it is going to be a low dose epi and phera run....should be very synergystic....phera will kill your appetite and the epi will dry you out and keep off the phera bloat....im thinking 20 mgs of each would be sufficient....
edit: i will be using test too though...
i was thought from user feed back that if you use a compound back to back it is not as effective as the last.why soes that matter? epi is without a doubt the best thing otc to cut with...
broscience....if you have taken the proper time off you will be fine....especially if your cutting....i was thought from user feed back that if you use a compound back to back it is not as effective as the last.
I get the same effects with Hdrol over 75/day.My H-Drol Cycle: currently starting week 5
50/75/100/125/150/150
Strength has been going through the roof and I've gone from 192 to 205/6. My diet hasn't been the best, because of nerves and tension around the workplace lately. I'm still eating very clean, of course, but just not as much as I would prefer to be getting. Usually around 3000-3500 a day, although 4000 would be my goal. My anxiety issues are bad, and when something gets to me on-cycle, it amplifies the problem 10x, so I'm pretty edgy about stuff.
What's bj?I think Im just an a-hole all the time, thats why i never notice a diffrence when I am on or off. I use benedril/melatonin/ and a bj from the girlfriend to sleep when i get gear induced insomnia.
Mine always comes on the faceWhat's bj?
Does that come bulk or capped?
or boobs...or da butt...Mine always comes on the face
i stacked it with trenadrol and that quickly ended lolIts insane how h-drol positively effects your libido. . . I love it
sounds like a good cycle to me! :thumbsup:why not epi? why does the cycle have to be only four weeks....im planning a cut soon and it is going to be a low dose epi and phera run....should be very synergystic....phera will kill your appetite and the epi will dry you out and keep off the phera bloat....im thinking 20 mgs of each would be sufficient....
edit: i will be using test too though...
Do you not like H-drol because of side effects?or lack of gains? How was H-drol on your blood pressure? Do you think 100mg would cause blood pressure problems for someone around 225pounds with significant prohormone experience? Any info would be appreciated.i went to 150....ive seen logs of people as high as 200....for some reason i want to say pistonpump did it....but i cant remember for sure.....its not unheard of though and yes its probably safer to use something else instead....i personally dont like hdrol....i thnk it is about the worst compound out there...
i just didnt notice any effects at all (other than a bp spike) at the lower doses....and when you get into the higher doses the ends just dont justify the means any more.....but no with the proper support supps you should be able to keep your blood pressure under control with a 100mgs....many people have done thisDo you not like H-drol because of side effects?or lack of gains? How was H-drol on your blood pressure? Do you think 100mg would cause blood pressure problems for someone around 225pounds with significant prohormone experience? Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks for the reply.Do you think if I run Cycle Support by Anabolic Innovations either starting one week before the cycle and continuing throughout or just throughout that it would be enough??i just didnt notice any effects at all (other than a bp spike) at the lower doses....and when you get into the higher doses the ends just dont justify the means any more.....but no with the proper support supps you should be able to keep your blood pressure under control with a 100mgs....many people have done this
Your PCT seems kind of weak. Check out this link and look at his PCT for reference. I believe he used a SERM also.PCT
Resterviol
Hypertest
really.....dont like the high dosed fishes eh?....ive gone up to 25 grams before never had the shits from it.....just spaced it out....4-5 grams with every meal....i always serm, and 10 grams of fish oil a day gonna have you crapping your lungs out.
Come on bro, it's not "common" to go up to 150 with h-drol. Common is 75, some people go to 100. But few people go up to 150 and 200 IS pretty unheard of. It's been done (so some people say, I've never actually seen a log) but not enough to imply it's safe to do. At 2.5x what most people run that's kinda pushing the limit.i wouldnt run hdrol for a short cycle, starting tht high is probably going to give you one hell of a bp spike too....but its common to go to 150 with hdrol and not even unheard of to go as high as 200....but i dont think its worth your time unless you do it for 6 weeks
ive been pretty extreme with it as i said before....after easy did the fish oil log a few years ago when he was takin 20g a day i decided to try it out....but now im a lot more moderate just a pack of animal omega and eat lots of fishyeah the most fish oil i supplement with is about 6-8 grams at extreeme, usually around 5 grams, but I have baked tilapia and tuna every day along with salmon on a regular basis, so I get a lot of omega 3 in my diet
100-200 is just Plain F'n Crazy there is no need for this. Come on is your health really worth all that 75mg was waaayyy too much for me and I weigh almost 300lbs!
hahahahahahah.......your joking right?hahahahhaha....thats awesome dood!!!!!!!!!!! but seriously....your joking right?
what do you mean by too much? the sides got to you? it spiked your bp? whats your body composition look like? i dont mean to offend but at three hundred lbs....your probably a lil chunky....again no offense....but you probably already had sh!tty lipids and a high bp......among other things...so yes even a relatively small dose would produce lots of sides.....but for the majority of healthy users out there a dose of 50-75mgs is not going to do d!ck! you also stacked this with "tren" right? so how do you even know you got any effects out of your hdrol.....could have been all tren....hahahahahahah.......your joking right?
i agree with a lot of this post...it was what i was trying to articulate in my last post...you have just done it much better...the grapefruit juice referance is proven....but ive never heard of fat improving the bio-availability of a methyl compound....can you provide a link or anything? very curious about that...Keep in mind that h-drol is a "first pass" compound, as are most orals. Liver enzymes are going to eat up a certain percentage of the compound before it gets into your system. Individual levels of liver enzymes can vary greatly, so one person taking 100mgs of h-drol might end up with 10 mgs getting into the blood, while another might get 40 mgs. Diet will play a crucial role in this as well. If you drink grapefruit juice, for example, the dhb from the fruit will compete with the liver enzymes and you'll end up with higher serum concentrations. Consuming fat along with or around the ingestion of h-drol will also increase bioavailability. Trying to deduce what a substance might do for/to you based on another's experience assumes "all other things being equal" but when you add all the differences between a person's diet, genetics, comp, training, endocrine system, enzyme levels, muscle fiber types, lipid profiles, blood pressure, sleeping patterns, sexual activity, even relative exposure to natural light, and well ****, how much do we really have in common? A very small percentage. Doctors might spend years of work and millions of dollars doing clinical trials to try to keep "all other things equal" and still not get results that transfer well into the real world. We're all at a disadvantage here, so we shouldn't flame other people just because their experiences don't match up with our notions.
I dunno too much about it but i remember reading that the oral steroids are lipid soluble which just means they are basically nonpolar compounds, this means they will mesh well with the fat they are ingested with and should be absorbed better.
I know when i took all my pills for the day and opened them over a shot of olive oil and stirred it up and shot it, i was "feeling it" more than usual about 40 minutes after that, kind of stimmed feeling in my head and a pre-pump going in my body... I don't usually get that as much.
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