Epi Pulse Cycle: Running with.

[Themanabolic]

Epi Pulse Cycle: LOG

Hi Guys.
What was going to be an epi pulse, has now been changed into a full on epi
cycle. So far I have done 20/30/40/40/40/40/40.
If I feel/see nothing by day 7 then I am going to hit on up to 50mg.
I am Doing this cyle for 4weeks only.
PCT:
Nolva @ 20/10/10 as it is a light compound
Along side with a test booting supplement (natural).
I am be using 'Cycle Assist' untill from start to finish also.

 

[Themanabolic]

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[Themanabolic]

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[nsmoney1]

Id go with reversitrol, I used torem after my epi cycle and i wish I just used a natty test booster but thats just me.. plus i didnt pulse that ish, i ran it 20/30/30/40.. I dont think youll need a SERM if you pulse it.. to each his own tho brother

if you must taper the serm down after 2 wks and introduce like STOKED and run it for an additional 3 wks.. just do your research and trust your gut. Epis a good beginner cycle to get your feet wet with

 

[Themanabolic]

Id go with reversitrol, I used torem after my epi cycle and i wish I just used a natty test booster but thats just me.. plus i didnt pulse that ish, i ran it 20/30/30/40.. I dont think youll need a SERM if you pulse it.. to each his own tho brother

if you must taper the serm down after 2 wks and introduce like STOKED and run it for an additional 3 wks.. just do your research and trust your gut. Epis a good beginner cycle to get your feet wet with

Thanks for the reply. I'm going to use nolva as its the cheapest I can get, I hate to do things on the cheapest i can get basis but atleast it has a pretty good name for PCT
I might add some STOKED in too cheers for that, I really needed a test booster recommendation !

 

[Themanabolic]

Write Up

Start Weight: 16 Stone / 224 Pounds / 101.6 Kilograms
Post-PCT Weight: 16.12 Stone / 236 Pounds / 107 Kilograms

The first two weeks, I did not feel much at all, but after that I my weights were going up in the gym, and still are now past PCT. No dramatic changes in my body but a 5.5 kg gain is not bad at all.
I upped calories through pct, eating every 2 hours. managed a few PB's including, Bench Press 1 x 130kg. DB Benchpress 4 x 50kg. Dead lift of 3 x 180kg. Bell Bar Shoulder Press, 4 x 80kg. Bent over row 6 x 120kg.

Next cycle will be dbol and test E probably, but I am still doing research into it.

Overall I am happy with the gains I got off this compound

 

[Themanabolic]

Start Date:
20th June.

End of Cycle:
18th July.

End of PCT:
8th August

 

[Themanabolic]

Here is an overview of my diet (I'm on a cut):
I eat every 2 hours.
Breakfast 40g protein and 55g carbs
every other meal 40/40 carbs protein
penultimate meal has 40/40 carbs protein & a handful of walnuts.
next one is 40g protein a few nuts and a shot of flax seed oil - if I'm really feeling adventurous ill add olive oil to the flax .. haha

Post workout I have a shake (maximuscle progain extreme (it was on offer, otherwise that stuff is too expensive lol)

I have been running Salbutamol & ephedrine (not together cycling) but now going to come off it for the benefit of my blood pressure, unless anyone can convince me to keep on the EC .. I would love that by the way !

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 1

2 weeks on 2 weeks off.
20/30/40/40/40...

Did Chest today:
Felt good, better than I expected as I dropped ephedrine and caffeine that I have been doing for a while. I had massive pump after too my chest was really red !

dose: 10mg pre. 10mg post.

Routine:
Dumbbell bench press: weight = (weight each side so 45 = 90)
Warmup:
10 x 20kg/44lbs
Working:
8 x 40kg/88lbs
3 x 45kg/100lbs drop 1 x 40kg/88lbs
4 x 42.5kg/94lbs
4 x 40kg/88lbs drop 3 x 30kg/66lbs

Dumbbell incline bench press: (weight is each side 35 = total 70)
3 x 35kg/77lbs drop 3 x 30kg/66lbs
8 x 30kg/66lbs
8 x 30kg/66lbs
6 x 30kg/66lbs

Barbell bench press (usually do this first, so it felt weird):
5 x 80kg/176lbs
5 x 80kg/176lbs
6 x 70kg/154lbs
6 x 70kg/154lbs

Dips:
6
6
5
6

Cable flyes: (weight is each side so 40= total 80)
1 x 40kg/88lbs (static hold) - 5 x 25kg/55lbs
8 x 20kg/44lbs - too easy
4 x 30kg/66lbs drop, 2 x 25kg drop 3 x 20kg/44lbs
5 x 25kg/55lbs drop 3 x 20kg/44lbs

good session overall, my biceps felt sore in the last sets as I twanged them last week doing a heavy bicep curl. nothing too bad though.


SIDE EFFECTS: none

Weight: 16 Stone/224lbs

 

[Lawro72]

I'm looking forward to following this one. I was going to do a six week pulse of epi myself but have decided to do a straight 5 week run @30 mg a day. That is if my nolva turns up!

 

[Themanabolic]

I'm looking forward to following this one. I was going to do a six week pulse of epi myself but have decided to do a straight 5 week run @30 mg a day. That is if my nolva turns up!

I've decided to change to the 2 week on 2 week off method, and do nolva in the 2 weeks off, as I don't want to be doing a ph cycle while on holiday, and it just seems easier this way.. my nolva should be here next week :nervous:, if not ill have to use my 'phone a friend' life line,
But still follow .
I'm going to do start pic's (already taken) after 2 weeks on, after 2 weeks off, after 2 weeks on again, then after a lil pct.

Are you doing a log ? I would like to see 5 week results on a full run.

 

[Lawro72]

I've decided to change to the 2 week on 2 week off method, and do nolva in the 2 weeks off, as I don't want to be doing a ph cycle while on holiday, and it just seems easier this way.. my nolva should be here next week :nervous:, if not ill have to use my 'phone a friend' life line,
But still follow .
I'm going to do start pic's (already taken) after 2 weeks on, after 2 weeks off, after 2 weeks on again, then after a lil pct.

Are you doing a log ? I would like to see 5 week results on a full run.

Haven't decided whether to run a log or not, depends how much time i have to sit at the pc and type **** up! Probably just run a thread detailing my overall thoughts of the cycle/pct, it will be my first cycle of this type.

 

[Themanabolic]

Haven't decided whether to run a log or not, depends how much time i have to sit at the pc and type **** up! Probably just run a thread detailing my overall thoughts of the cycle/pct, it will be my first cycle of this type.

Ah fair enough, I've just got nothing better to do at the moment so I'm typing my logs up, its always interesting to see aswell isn't it ?
I'm not sure about my nolvadex dosage ? it looks a little low to me but I don't really know how high to run it, I want to do 40/20/20/10
and 30/20 on the middle 2 weeks.

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 2

20mg - 10mg

Delts & Traps - with some Triceps as I felt good.

BarBell Shoulder Press:
Warm-up:
-10 x 20kg/44lbs
Working:
-6 x 60kg/132lbs
-6 x 60kg/132lbs
-6 x 60kg/132lbs
-6 x 60kg/132lbs

Dumbbell Shoulder Press:
- 6 x 30kg/66lbs
- 6 x 27.5kg/60lbs
- 6 x 27.5kg/60lbs
- 6 x 27.5kg/60lbs

Dumbbell Side Raise:
- 10 x 15kg/33lbs
- 5 x 17.5kg/39lbs drop 3 x 15kg/33lbs
- 10 x 15kg/33lbs
- 6 x 15kg/33lbs drop 6 x 12.5kg/28lbs

Dumbell Front Raise:
- 2 x 20kg/44lbs drop 5 x 15kg/33lbs
- 8 x 17.5kg/39lbs
- 8 x 15kg/33lbs
- 6 x 15kg/33lbs drop 6 x 12.5kg/28lbs

Traps: (both super set with skull crushers)

Bell Bar Shrug:
20 x 100kg/221lbs
12 x 120kg/265lbs
5 x 160kg/353lbs drop 5 x 120kg/265lbs drop 5 x 100kg/221lbs drop 5 x 60kg/132lbs

Standing EZ row:
10 x 35kg/77lbs
10 x 40kg/88lbs

All super set with:
Skull Crushers:
10 x 30kg/66lbs
8 x 35kg/77lbs
8 x 35kg77lbs
8 x 35kg/77lbs
6 x 35kg/77lbs
7 x 30kg/66lbs


- Feeling good, added triceps due to feeling good.
SIDE EFFECTS: maybe the sh!ts?, probs something I've ate. otherwise none

Weight: 16 Stone/224lbs

 

[Themanabolic]

For tomorrow should I do:

30mg pre and 10mg post ?

or

20mg pre and 20mg post ?

 

[Mars1107]

id run it straight through, but its your choice.

Im on my first epi cycle, doing it regular, thought about pulsing, i tried 20 mg preworkout once. I didnt notice anything to crazy.

The compound takes at least a week to kick in. 2-3 weeks to kick in fully.

my two cents

 

[Themanabolic]

id run it straight through, but its your choice.

Im on my first epi cycle, doing it regular, thought about pulsing, i tried 20 mg preworkout once. I didnt notice anything to crazy.

The compound takes at least a week to kick in. 2-3 weeks to kick in fully.

my two cents

I'm going to run this one like this, see how it goes.
then I'm going to do a 'propper' cycle just before xmas.

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 3

First of all gym was so hot ! so performed under par. this is in no way due to the epi I'm sure.

Dose : 20mg / 20mg

Back & a little Biceps (only just recovered from injury):

Deadlifts:
Warm up:
-12 x 60kg/132lbs
Working:
-6 x 140kg/308lbs
-1 x 160kg/353lbs
-6 x 140kg/308lbs
-6 x 140kg/308lbs

Seated Row:
- 6 x 90kg/198lbs
- 6 x 90kg/198lbs
- 8 x 80kg/176lbs
- 8 x 80kg/176lbs

Lat Pull Down:
Front:
-8 x 70kg/154lbs
-8 x 65kg/143lbs
Behind:
-6 x 65kg/143lbs
-6 x 60kg/132lbs

T-bar row:
-10 x 75kg/165lbs
-8 x 85kg/187lbs
-8 x 85kg/187lbs
-8 x 85kg/187lbs

EZ Preacher curls:
- 8 x 30kg/66lbs
- 6 x 30kg/66lbs
- 6 x 25kg/55lbs
- 7 x 25kg/55lbs

Straight bar 21's
- 21 x 15kg/33lbs
- 21 x 20kg/44lbs

Sub par workout due to heat, and me being cautious of biceps, kind of got in the zone just after the 3rd set of T-bar rows, I'm attributing that to the epi.

Side Effects: none

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 4

Feeling good, not much different though.

Did Pec's again today to get back into my old routine.

10mg afternoon. 20mg pre/10mg post workout

Pecs:

Dumbbell Press:
Warm up:
- 10 x 20kg
Working:
- 3 x 47.5kg/105lbs
- 3 x 45kg/100lbs
- 3 x 45kg/100lbs
- 3 x 45kg/100lbs
- 3 x 42.5kg/94lbs
- 3 x 42.5kg/94lbs drop 5 x 27.5kg/61lbs

Decline Bell Bar Press:
- 6 x 90kg/198lbs
- 6 x 90kg/198lbs
- 6 x 80kg/176lbs
- 8 x 80kg/176lbs

Incline Dumbbell press:
- 8 x 30kg/66lbs
- 9 x 30kg/66lbs
- 5 x 32.5kg/72lbs
- 7 x 30kg/66lbs

Dumbbell Flyes:
- 2 x 30kg/66lbs drop 4 x 17.5kg/39lbs
- 4 x 20kg/44lbs drop 2 x 12.5kg/28lbs
- 4 x 17.5kg/39lbs drop 2 x 12.5kg28lbs

Overall workout felt good, good pump.

SIDE EFFECTS: none

no 'on' feeling.

I have decided to do a straight cycle if I feel good after the 2 weeks. I've already ordered my second bottle.

WEIGHT: 16.2 (+0.2) stone. / 226.8lbs (+2.8lbs)

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 5

Well... I'm getting slightly irritated that I am feeling nothing.
I kind of want some side effects to tell me that I've got a useful compound in my body.. Lord give me some bacne !!

Any way. Taking it more spread about the day now, decided on doing a full cycle, due to the 'mildness' so far.

40mg per day, 10 morning, 10 afternoon, 10 pre workout, 10 early evening.

Workout today legs:

Deadlifts: lower back a little tender from back day, but squat rack = busy.
warm-up:
- 10 x 60kg/132lbs
working:
- 10 x 120kg/265lbs
- 4 x 150kg/330lbs
- 4 x 150kg/330lbs
- 8 x 120kg/265lbs

Donkey calf raise:
- 15 x 170kg/375lbs
- 13 x 170kg/375lbs
broke the machine ... oops must have been the additional 50kg's/110lbs added :dunno:
so Standing calf raise:
- 10 x 125kg/176lbs
- 10 x 100kg/220lbs

Leg Press:
- 10 x 210kg/463lbs
- 6 x 255kg/562lbs
- 6 x 255kg/562lbs
- 6 x 255kg/562lbs

SuperSet:
Leg Extension: / Hamstring Curl:
- 10 x 55kg/121lbs / - 10 x 30kg/66lbs
- 10 x 50kg/110lbs / - 5 x 50kg/110lbs drop 5 x 30kg/66lbs
- 10 x 50kg/110lbs / - 6 x 40kg/88lbs drop 3 x 30kg/66lbs
- 10 x 50kg/110lbs / - 10 x 30kg/66lbs

Side Effects: none
Actual effects... none
Possibly due to impatience.. possibly due to me being a quite a big chappy ? Input/reassurance would be great

 

[Mars1107]

id just run it straight, and get the proper pct and cycle support.

It looks like nothing is happening, technically u should see something from day one, no?

 

[Themanabolic]

id just run it straight, and get the proper pct and cycle support.

It looks like nothing is happening, technically u should see something from day one, no?

I'm just doing it straight now, I am already doing cycle support: 'cycle assist', and have nolva for pct... really doubting pulsing, and as epi is mild any way I now think there is no point. What would you say about doing 50mg/day from the beginning of week 2 ?

 

[Mars1107]

I'm just doing it straight now, I am already doing cycle support: 'cycle assist', and have nolva for pct... really doubting pulsing, and as epi is mild any way I now think there is no point. What would you say about doing 50mg/day from the beginning of week 2 ?

50mg is on the higher end, i might try that dose week 3 or 4 or possibly 5 if i decide to run another week, if i dont feel two shutdown.ive heard people go up to 60mg as well.

But yeah u have nolva, and cycle support, there is no need for pulse.

Id start at 40mg and stay there for a week, and then maybe go up to 50, but its your first cycle, so u may not need 50mg. might want to 40mg for 2 weeks, 1 week 50mg, another week 50mg. but really see how it progress, i takes time to build in your system. im probally now just starting to notice effects.(week 1 at 30mg)(now at 40mg)

Good u have nolva, but id dose it 20,10,10 or something low, then get an otc test booster, serms are pretty toxic in of themselves. but people would disagree with that statement as well.

goodluck

 

[Themanabolic]

50mg is on the higher end, i might try that dose week 3 or 4 or possibly 5 if i decide to run another week, if i dont feel two shutdown.ive heard people go up to 60mg as well.

But yeah u have nolva, and cycle support, there is no need for pulse.

Id start at 40mg and stay there for a week, and then maybe go up to 50, but its your first cycle, so u may not need 50mg. might want to 40mg for 2 weeks, 1 week 50mg, another week 50mg. but really see how it progress, i takes time to build in your system. im probally now just starting to notice effects.(week 1 at 30mg)(now at 40mg)

Good u have nolva, but id dose it 20,10,10 or something low, then get an otc test booster, serms are pretty toxic in of themselves. but people would disagree with that statement as well.

goodluck

nolva is liver toxic, no one can disagree , I've got some IDS mass caps, which are natty test boosters, I bought them on a whim, I might just use them when I go down to 10 on the nolva, I'll do my pct as you have said too.. save me a little money too, as I'll have nolva left over haha:006:
I might try 50mg next week, depending on how I feel.

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 6

Well today was back, and some calfs at the end as they're lagging.

Dose: 40mg spread throughout the day.

Had some major back pumps. But I'm 80% sure this was due to yesterdays dead lifting, and not the epi.

Workout:

Pull-ups:
- 10
- 8
- 6
- 6

Bent over Row:
- 10 x 80kg/176lbs
- 5 x 100kg/220lbs drop 4 x 80kg/176lbs
- 8 x 85 kg/187lbs
- 8 x 80kg/176lbs drop 5 x 40kg/88lbs
Back pumps. stopped me lifting more

iso Lat Pulldowns:
- 8 x 100kg/220lbs
- 6 x 110kg/243lbs
- 6 x 100kg/220lbs
- 8 x 90kg/198lbs

Seated Row
- 8 x 70kg/154lbs
- 8 x 65kg/143lbs
- 8 x 65kg/143lbs
- 7 x 70kg/154lbs

Lat pulldowns - Wrists facing. / Donkey Calf Raise
- 8 x 60kg/132lbs / - 15 x 150kg/330lbs
- 8 x 60kg/132lbs - 15 x 150kg/330lbs
- 8 x 65kg/143lbs - 12 x 150kg/330lbs
- 5 x 60kg/132lbs drop 2 x 50kg/110lbs / - 15 x 125kg/275lbs

Side Effects: possibly Back Pumps.. otherwise none
Still not really feeling it.

going to 50mg on day 8.
20mg in the morning, and the rest 10mg spread at 8am/12pm/6pm/10pm

Weight: 17 stone ... scale in my gym = broke lol I can but dream of the big 17

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 7.

Feeling good today, Not feeling anything positive from epi, had some back pumps today when playing cricket ... and my farts wreak of sulfur

Today was Boulders

dose 40mg

Seated Bell Bar Shoulder Press:
Warm up:
- 10 x 40kg/88lbs
Working:
- 4 x 80kg/176lbs
- 5 x 70kg/154lbs
- 7 x 60kg/132lbs
- 6 x 60kg/132lbs

Standing Bell Bar Press:
- 6 x 60kg/132lbs
- 5 x 60kg/132lbs
- 7 x 50kg/110lbs
- 6 x 55kg/121lbs

Rear Delt Dumbell Flyes:
- 15 x 10kg/22lbs
- 10 x 12.5kg/28lbs drop 5 x 10kg/22lbs
- 15 x 10kg/22lbs
- 15 x 10kg/22lbs

Cable Side Raise:
- 8 x 10kg/22lbs
- 7 x 10kg/22lbs
- 10 x 5kg/11lbs
- 8 x 5kg/11lbs

Dumbbell Shrug:
- 15 x 50kg/110lbs
- 10 x 50kg/110lbs drop 10 x 30kg/66lbs
- 10 x 50kg/110lbs drop 10 x 30kg/66lbs
- 10 x 40kg/88lbs drop 10 x 30kg/66lbs

Overall good workout, looked swole after, which always makes me happy.

Sides: Sulfur farts & back pump

Weight: 16.2 (+0.2) / 226.8 (+2.8lbs)

Going to stay at 40 mg, at least until my taurine comes, as the back pumps are not enjoyable.
Taurine should come monday

Blood Pressure: 125/55
Normal for me

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 8

Dose 40mg

Arms

Standing Bell Bar Curls:
Warm up:
- 12 x 25kg/55lbs
Working:
- 8 x 40kg/88lbs
- 6 x 40kg/88lbs
- 8 x 35kg/77lbs
- 8 x 35kg/77lbs

Skull Crushers:
- 8 x 40kg/88lbs
- 4 x 45kg/99lbs drop 2 x 40kg/88lbs drop 4 x 30kg/66lbs
- 4 x 40kg/88lbs drop 4 x 30kg/66lbs
- 4 x 40kg/88lbs drop 4 x 30kg/66lbs drop 4 x 20kg/44lbs

Dumbbell Preacher:
- 8 x 17.5kg/39lbs drop 7 x 12.5kg/28lbs
- 10 x 17.5kg/39lbs
- 10 x 17.5 kg/39lbs
- 10 x 17.5kg/39lbs drop 6 x 12.5kg/28lbs

1 Arm Tricep Pulldowns:
- 15 x 15kg/33lbs
- 12 x 20kg/44lbs
- 8 x 25kg/55lbs
- 4 x 30kg/66lbs

21's:/superset/ Behind neck plate press:
- 21 x 25kg/55lbs / 10 x 25kg/55lbs
- 21 x 25kg/55lbs/ 10 x 25kg/55lbs
- 21 x 20kg/44lbs/ 10 x 25kg/55lbs

Weight:
16.3 (+0.3) Stone / 228.2lbs (+4.2)


Side Effects: none.
Not feeling much at all to be honest

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 9

Off Day

Feel alright, nothing really to report.

Sides: none

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 10

A few back pumps when cycling today.
otherwise this was an off day.

had some EC as I am putting on fat.. i want thermogenesis !
checked my BP before, it allowed me space to play with - so i did it. :gives:





:duel:

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 11

Today was pec's good session !

Dose: 40mg

Dumbbell Bench Press:
warm up:
- 10 x 20kg/44lbs
working:
- 3 x 47.5kg/105lbs
- 4 x 45kg/99lbs
- 4 x 45kg/99lbs
- 3 x 45kg/99lbs
- 3 x 45kg/99lbs
- 3 x 45kg/99lbs drop 2 x 40kg/88lbs drop 4 x 30kg/66lbs

Smith Incline Press:
- 6 x 100kg/220lbs
- 4 x 100kg/220lbs
- 7 x 90kg /198lbs
- 6 x 90kg/198lbs

Dips:
- 8
- 8
- 8
- 7

Dumbbell Fly
- 8 x 20kg/44lbs
- 6 x 20kg/44lbs
- 8 x 17.5kg/39lbs
- 8 x 17.5kg/39lbs

Cable Fly:
Top of machine:
- 10 x 20kg/44lbs
- 6 x 30kg/66lbs
Bottom of machine:
6 x 15kg/33lbs
8 x 10kg/22lbs

Sides: libido up:jester:
- felt decreased recovery time today

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 12

Legs

Feel nothing really today, a little back pump
@50mg/day now - got my taurine you see
take one dose of EC also. 1 hour pre workout - it makes me happy

Squats:
warm up:
- 10 x 60kg/132lbs
working:
- 10 x 100kg/220lbs
- 6 x 140kg/309lbs
- 6 x 140kg/309lbs
- 10 x 100kg/220lbs

Calf Raises:
- 15 x 170kg/375lbs
- 12 x 170kg/375lbs
- 12 x 150kg/331lbs
- 15 x 125kg/276lbs

Deadlift:
- 8 x 120kg/265lbs
- 8 x 120kg/265lbs
- 8 x 110kg/243lbs
- 10 x 90kg/198lbs

Unilateral Leg Press:
- 3 x 80kg/176lbs(perside) drop 6 x 60kg/132lbs(perside)
- 8 x 60kg/132lbs
- 8 x 60kg/132lbs
- 8 x 60kg/132lbs

notes: FUUUCK YOU HEATWAVE gym = H.O.T.!
Sides: slight back pump.

Weight: 16.3 (+0.3) Stone / 228.2lbs (+4.2)

.. I look puffier in general .. kind of fatter, my girl insists I don't .. maybe its just the heat .. nothing to do with food :food: .. honest:sgrin:

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 13

Still not really feeling anything special from this.. if i don't feel anything by the 6th I am going to commence PCT on the 8th, You will still get before and after pics, but from a much shorter course. This stuff has not given me much faith in PH's I am going to give M-Drol a blast for 3-4 weeks in september on a lean bulk. As i think epi is just too mild of a compound for me.

Back + a little Biceps
..Yet again ****KK YOU HEATWAVE!

Pull ups:
6
6
6
4

Seated Row:
6 x 100kg
8 x 90kg
6 x 90kg
8 x 80kg

Lat Pulldowns:
10 x 70kg
4 x 80kg drop 3 x 70kg
6 x 70kg
7 x 65kg drop 3 x 50kg

Bent Over Row:
10 x 70kg
3 x 100kg drop 2 x 90kg drop 3 x 70kg
8 x 80kg
8 x 80kg

EZ bar Bicep Curls
4 x 40kg drop 4 x 30kg
8 x 30kg
8 x 30kg
8 x 30kg

Sides: a little acne(stopped using benzoyl peroxide as it ruined about 3 expensive shirts GRRRR) & back pumps(but my friend taurine is on the case)

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 14

Still not feeling much.
DOSE: 50mg

Shoulders today.. good session

Standing Bell Bar shoulder press:
warm up:
12 x 20kg/44lbs
working:
3 x 80kg/176lbs drop 6 x 60kg/132lbs
8 x 60kg/132lbs
6 x 60kg/132lbs
6 x 60kg/132lbs

Dumbbell Shoulder Press:
6 x 30kg/66lbs
6 x 30kg/66lbs
6 x 30kg/66lbs
6 x 30kg/66lbs

Rear Delt (on pec fly machine)
12 x 60kg/132lbs
10 x 70kg/154lbs
10 x 70kg/154lbs
10 x 65kg/143lbs

Dumbbell Side raise:
6 x 15kg/33lbs drop 4 x 12.5kg/28lbs
4 x 15kg/33lbs drop 4 x 12.5kg/28lbs
5 x 12.5kg/28lbs drop 5 x 10kg/22lbs
5 x 12.5kg/28lbs drop 5 x 10kg/22lbs

Calf Raise machine Shrug:
20 x 125kg/276lbs
12 x 155kg/341lbs drop 4 x 125kg/276lbs
12 x 125kg/276lbs (superset with dumbbell shrug) drop 12 x 30kg/66lbs
12 x 125kg/276lbs (superset with dumbbell shrug) drop 12 x 30kg/66lbs


Sides: a lil acne, minor back pumps.

Weight: 16.4 (+0.4)stone/ 229.6 (+5.6)lbs

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 15

Off day today, still not feeling much ... :gives: any way..

Chest and Back tomorrow.
Shoulders and arms day after... pre PCT pics.

 

[SRS2000]

I'm a little confused. It says you are up 5.6 lbs. after only 15 days of a relatively "mild" compound, yet you say it's not doing anything. You started at over 220 lbs. so it's not like you were a little guy who could gain a ton of weight really fast. Your weight gain is about what I would expect given your cycle.
Is your strength up as well?
I'm not trying to criticize. Maybe you just had different expectations.

 

[Themanabolic]

I'm a little confused. It says you are up 5.6 lbs. after only 15 days of a relatively "mild" compound, yet you say it's not doing anything. You started at over 220 lbs. so it's not like you were a little guy who could gain a ton of weight really fast. Your weight gain is about what I would expect given your cycle.
Is your strength up as well?
I'm not trying to criticize. Maybe you just had different expectations.

The main thing I am going by is strength, which is the same, In my final write up I was going to explain how my weight doesn't really come into the equation, as I don't have a scale (I broke my home one) so I have to rely on one at the gym in the middle of the day, when my weight fluctuations are a lot, as my water intake is high, but varies from day today.. (weather I go am/pm as I drink more water in the pm..)

Cheers for the feed back though I'm glad someone is reading.
I'm still thinking fully about stopping or not, I'm going to do some before after shots, and see if I have made any progress, if i have. i will continue.

 

[Themanabolic]

Alright guys! been away in mexico..

I decided to continue my cycle, as It would be an unfair test of this compound if I stopped too soon.
I haven't logged workouts as I just have not had time.
My eating has been out of control this week, but I had already planned for it, I've put on some fat, but I'm not too bothered, sadly the weights in the resort I was at only went upto 50lbs for dumbells, and there was no bellbar bench set up , did the best I could do.
Bought some Clen as its cheaper than chips there! so that should allow for a good bit of cutting soon , was sooo tempted to buy some other things, but vials aren't the most inconspicuous thing to take anywhere lol, and I couldn't find any Dbol

anyway I shall be logging from now on, and I am going to log my before and after PCT pics when fully finished up after the 7th of august. Tomorrow is my last day before pct

 

[Themanabolic]

last day
had a good pec workout today, personal best using 50kg dumbells for benchpress

weighing in at 16.7 (+0.7)
some is fat due to pigging out in mexico.



on a side note... sore left nut

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 3 of pct...

baaaad jetlag... sooo bad.. I'm falling asleep at 7am waking at 3pm... this is messing up my world as I know it.

pct protocol = 20mg nolva for week 1
10 for 2 & 3

and cycle support

weight is now 16.8, and sitting steady, I'm gonna start full blown cardio as a part of my routine as of august 1st to get my self physically fit physically fit physically fit physically fit physically fit

 

[Themanabolic]

Day 5 PCT:
still not lost any size/weight.

Cardio makes me ache.. horrible, but I must get this fat off me.
Then maybe dbol/test-e if I can find a source I can trust

 

[TGD]

weighing in at 16.5kg (+0.5)
some is fat due to pigging out in mexico.

I'm confused here - how much weight did you gain?? There seems to be acombination of Lbs, Kgs and Stone floating around..

 

[Themanabolic]

I'm confused here - how much weight did you gain?? There seems to be acombination of Lbs, Kgs and Stone floating around..

sorry that was a mistake.
Its 16.5stone, which I have now checked on the scale at my girlfriends house (seems to be the most accurate, which is weighing me in at 16.11 stone.)

I've been using stone for body weight as thats what I'm used to using (in uk) and the weights in the gym are all in Kg's but I notice a lot of people from the US use lbs, so it was meant to be more helpful, but looks like its just turned out to be confusing. . . :sigh1:

So official weight = 16.10 stone / 235 lbs / 107 kg

 

[Themanabolic]

not much to say today day 8 of pct.

did chest yesterday benched 120kg a few times, happy with that.
did legs today did deadlifting 3 x 170kg and leg press 6 x 250kg (but my knee started to feel funny)

 

[Themanabolic]

day 11 pct going okay so far, lifts still increasing..

 

[Themanabolic]

Pct over yesterday.

.. Read review for final opinions

I'll get some pics up when I can

 

[TGD]

Pct over yesterday.

.. Read review for final opinions

I'll get some pics up when I can

Have I missed the final review somewhere?