Starting my first cycle.. Any advice?
- 06-03-2009, 10:09 AM
Starting my first cycle.. Any advice?
My name is Henry, and I'm 24 years old. I'm 5'11 and WAY to skinny (145lbs).
I had a few questions for you guys, hopefully you can help me out.
I want to start my first PH cycle in a few weeks, and I'm probably going to go with SD (M-drol), because of what I've read about it and the gains I can experience with it. I typically work out 5 days a week and the only supps I'm currently on are creatine mono and whey. Because I'm so freaking skinny, I'm already cut as hell - I just want to bulk up!
So here's my first question... What should I be eating? Is there a certain regimen I can follow to maximize my results?
Also, I've heard that milk thistle can render your results while on a PH. Is that true? I already have a PCT cycle ready after I finish my mdol cycle, but I want to know if I should run anything while on it.
Final question - what kind of gains should I expect? I've heard nothing but awesome things about mdrol and I can't wait to try out a cycle.
Thanks everyone! Looking forward to your responses
- 06-03-2009, 10:27 AM
you need to do a good cycle of food before you start anything hormonal....especially mdrol....you obviously dont know how to eat....you will put on more weight by spending time working on your diet than you ever will from any steroid.....
- 06-03-2009, 11:22 AM
You mentioned doing a cycle of food before I start with any PH. Could you go into more detail?
Thanks for the response!
06-03-2009, 11:33 AM
200 grams of protein? thats a joke....my mom eats 200 grams of protein....double that and then we are talking....heres what a typical day should look like for the next year of your life....then mabye you can cycle....
7am-2 scoops whey
1tablespoon natty pb
2 1/2 cups whole milk
1/2 cup heavy cream
10am- 4 whole eggs
2 cups oats
12am-90/10 beef 1 lbs
2 cups brown rice
3pm- preworkout protein shake-50 grams
5pm-post workout shake....same as morning shake
this is a pretty typical diet for a hard gainer....ive been there trust me....until you can learn to eat like this every day....steroids will do you NO good...im sorry...i know thats no what you want to hear but its the truth.....remember....there are no naturally skinny guys....just guys who dont eat enough to be big....
06-03-2009, 11:40 AM
I guess the help I was looking for wasn't really available on this forum. Out of everyone I've talked too, not one person has told me that I have to eat 400g of protein every single day for a year just to run a 4 week cycle.
Oh well, thanks for your time. I'm going to try some other boards. Peace!
06-03-2009, 12:35 PM
dude how about this, if you dont want to eat liek he said cut out some things and try to eat whatever you can eat. take the mdrol if you dont get results then mooch was right. you need to eat more and more every single day. work your way up. dont just start off heavy eating . just eat whatever you can so you dont throw up. then the next day try to increase it more. thats how you bulk up. ex: you're small, so calories 2500 one day next day 3000, next day 3200 , 3500 . i think you get the point. dont eat bad **** though.
06-03-2009, 12:38 PM
mooch is definitely correct, whether you can eat that much or not in a day is irrelevant. the point is: YOU NEED TO EAT, whether you like it or not. diet comes first, and until you reach at least 160-180 lb range soley from FOOD, you should not even consider a PH cycle, especially NOT mdrol. im 170 lbs and consume anywhere from 300-400 grams of protein a day, so theres no reason you can consume AT LEAST double your weight in grams of protein.
06-03-2009, 12:46 PM
yes mooch is right, plus you're like 145 thats kinda small to start juicing. you should buy some weight gainers and diet better and see if you get good gains from that.
06-03-2009, 01:43 PM
bro when i was 21, i was 135 lbs at 5'9....ive been there trust me....i followed a diet very similar to this for two years and some change....i put on 50 lbs before i touched any steroid.....it may take you some time but you need to take in enough cals to overcome your metabolism....or you will never grow....there are no hardgainers....just people who wont diligently eat....
06-03-2009, 02:25 PM
Alright guys, thanks for all the info :/
This is really disappointing since the mdrol is already being shipped to my house. Oh well, I guess I'll keep it somewhere as motivation to eat more.
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