Dosages on 4oh/m1t/4ad cycle

  1. Dosages on 4oh/m1t/4ad cycle


    Hey guys,

    I have not posted here before. I have been on the bb.com board, but this board seems to have a lot more help and less BS so I would like some advice on this.

    I planning a cycle in the beginning of March.

    it will be a 4 week cycle. For the first 2 weeks i will run a bottle of Dermabolics 1 that I have left (about two weeks worth).

    So for two weeks I will run about 250mg 1-test, and then for the last 2 weeks switch to 5-10mg of m1t. I plan on using the minimum required dosage needed to get some nice gains.

    I was wandering how much 4ad/4OH I would need to run with that?

    I am using the BDC carrier and mixing my own powders. Should I go with 5g4AD and 5g Hydroxytest. Or should I go with 6g 4AD and 4g 4OH?

    I am not quite sure what ratio is the optimal (money not a problem)?

    If anyone has any experience or knowledge of this, give me your opinion

    I am leaning towards 5g of each (1:1 ratio)and run about 200mg transdermal a day of each.


    For some background I have run two cycle this far. Both were 300mg 1test a day + 800 mg 1,4 andro a day. Made some nice gains, and no side effects at all except some lethargy the first week. My libido was also fine which amazes me considering I did not run 4 AD at all

    24 years old. 217 lbs 8% BF. Training pretty seriously the last 4 years.


    For PCT I will use my fave of transdermal 6-oxo, 7 -keto combo, and nolva. That seems to get me up and going pretty fast, and help hold off some fat PCT. I have all my others supps in order (K+, NAC, etc...
    Last edited by Newguy03; 01-15-2004 at 01:47 AM. Reason: wrong doses


  2. I always use a transdermal 4ad/OHT with m1t. If you have 4oz bottles of the new gel, I'd go with 7g 4ad & 3g OHT. OHT is not very anabolic, its really just a stacking agent to offset estrogen related sides. If taken alone, I doubt it would do much if anything for size/strength.

    On my last cycle it nearly eliminated water retention, reduced acne & lethargy. I used 4g OHT/10g 4ad in the old t-gel (8oz) & it worked like a charm. I don't think you need more than a few grams OHT for it to work. I think you'll need higher amounts of 4ad while on the M1t anyway. Plus 4ad powder is 1/6 the price of OHT, although you say $$ doesnt matter. You could run a 50/50 ratio if you want, but I doubt the OHT will do any more at 5g than at 3g. If you want mass, you'll need more 4ad.
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  3. So what would be the minimum amount of 4AD you would run a day? 300mg a day? or more?


    thanks
    as this wiill be my first m1t cycle
    Last edited by Newguy03; 01-15-2004 at 07:13 PM.

  4. Yeah, the minumum amount of transdermal 4ad I'd use (stacked w. M1t) is 300mg. Believe me, M1t is harsh without it.

  5. I made my mix of 4ad / 4oht recently. 4ad 7.5 grams, 4oht 2.5 grams all in the 4 oz. Tgel. Mixed up nice with a little heating and shaking. Good luck bro.
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