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[One Shot]

OK heres my situation,,,ive ran SD twice so far,,once August and the second time was end of december-jan, and everything was fine, but last month i noticed i was puffy on my nipps, and i felt 2 little rock/pebble things underneath, and sure enough, i squeeze and some discharge comes out, so i got letro/caber to take care of this, as of now, the pebbles are pretty much gone, puffiness is kinda down,,still there kinda,,and when i squeeze theres still a little liquid coming out but only out of the left nip and its very tiny so its safe to say its working, but heres my situation,

my libido at the moment is zero, and im leaving for bootcamp may11th,,and my gf wants to spend quality time before im gone for 3 months,,,and the way she is she will think something is wrong with her if i cant perform because my freakin libido is gone,,,can i get any suggestions on what to do to get my libido back? or should i just wait it out and im basically screwed in the libido department lol im currently tapering down off the letro so when i leave for boot ill be completely off of it and from what i hear it sometimes takes a while to get the drive back.

 

[CJ1990]

try stacking MACA, Horny goat weed, arginine, and tribulus. you're gf won't know what hit her. seriously.

 

[crazyfool405]

OK heres my situation,,,ive ran SD twice so far,,once August and the second time was end of december-jan, and everything was fine, but last month i noticed i was puffy on my nipps, and i felt 2 little rock/pebble things underneath, and sure enough, i squeeze and some discharge comes out, so i got letro/caber to take care of this, as of now, the pebbles are pretty much gone, puffiness is kinda down,,still there kinda,,and when i squeeze theres still a little liquid coming out but only out of the left nip and its very tiny so its safe to say its working, but heres my situation,

my libido at the moment is zero, and im leaving for bootcamp may11th,,and my gf wants to spend quality time before im gone for 3 months,,,and the way she is she will think something is wrong if i cant perform because my freakin libido is gone,,,can i get any suggestions on what to do to get my libido back? or should i just wait it out and im basically screwed in the libido department lol im currently tapering down off the letro so when i leave for boot ill be completely off of it and from what i hear it sometimes takes a while to get the drive back.

what was your PCT and how long u been off letro/caber?

i suggest PMing SethRoberts as soon as possible and explaining your situation maybe he can help!

also tell him every supplement dosing protocol and length of use.

hes helped me a lot !!! hes a wealth of knowledge

 

[One Shot]

im not off letro/caber im still taking it, im tapering off of it though, right now im at 1mg ED of Letro and .5mg of Caber every 3 days. i do notice the spike in libido usually the day after taking Caber.

For my PCT last round i used Nolva as my SERM, dosed at 40/30/20/10.

 

[One Shot]

and ill hit up sethroberts first thing when i wake up,,freakin tired today,,been feeling kinda lethargic lately...

 

[One Shot]

try stacking MACA, Horny goat weed, arginine, and tribulus. you're gf won't know what hit her. seriously.

it was funny cuz a week ago we were in the vitamin shoppe in boise and she was checking out the mens sexual performance enhancers,,,,so yeah i need to get this libido situation back and running lol

 

[sethroberts]

and ill hit up sethroberts first thing when i wake up,,freakin tired today,,been feeling kinda lethargic lately...

Funny, caber should be helping with libido if it is prolactin-based. Whatdid you use as PCT the first time you ran superdrol and hw far apart were the two cycles?

 

[mooch2321]

wont letro kill the libido tho....everytime i run a strong ai...letro, atd etc....my libido takes a hit.....

 

[sethroberts]

wont letro kill the libido tho....everytime i run a strong ai...letro, atd etc....my libido takes a hit.....

Too low estrogen can kill the libido. I guess that is a possibility here.

 

[One Shot]

Funny, caber should be helping with libido if it is prolactin-based. Whatdid you use as PCT the first time you ran superdrol and hw far apart were the two cycles?

Nolva, and the cycles were 4 months apart. and yeah when i take the caber that same day and the next day i notice my libido makes a come back.

 

[krogtaar]

low est and/or high prolactin. not uch you can do about the estrogen since you need to taper off slowly or you will get a huge rebound of esrogen. also you should be doing nolva after the letro

 

[Liftingstud]

I would suggest some DTH to get the drive rocking also sumani, makes me feel 18 again.

This sex drive seemed to be a problem with SD when just an AI like Rebound were used for PCT. I had the same problem when coming of my first SD cycle when I only used Rebound XT for PCT this was when SD was first out. After a few wks it slowly came back but sucks.

 

[One Shot]

low est and/or high prolactin. not uch you can do about the estrogen since you need to taper off slowly or you will get a huge rebound of esrogen. also you should be doing nolva after the letro

yeah im tapering off slowly,,but what if i dont do nolva after? i wont have access to it since im in bootcamp. and heres another question about the tapering process, like with T3 you taper down slowly every 3-4 days when your going off, can you do the same with letro or is that 2 fast?

 

[bpmartyr]

1mg ED of Letro

There is your problem.

Letro is usually dosed .5mg EOD and still wrecks libido. You are destroying your estrogen instead of controlling it. I would change up to something a litlle more mild like 6bromo, 6-oxo or a low dose of ATD (25mg). IMO

 

[One Shot]

There is your problem.

Letro is usually dosed .5mg EOD and still wrecks libido. You are destroying your estrogen instead of controlling it. I would change up to something a litlle more mild like 6bromo, 6-oxo or a low dose of ATD (25mg). IMO

yeah i figured, i have ppl telling me different things though, someone saying use 1 mg of letro, some telling me ramp it higher, then i have the ppl saying use something more mild, which i think i should have gone with 6-bromo to begin with.

 

[One Shot]

haha by the way im loving your freakin avatar,,thats funny as hell.

 

[sethroberts]

I haven't had a lot of time on the forums in the past few days and reading back through I realize i asked you questions that yu had pretty much answered. But if I read correctly, you used nolva the first time and saw no issues. You used Letro the second time and saw the issue?

 

[One Shot]

I haven't had a lot of time on the forums in the past few days and reading back through I realize i asked you questions that yu had pretty much answered. But if I read correctly, you used nolva the first time and saw no issues. You used Letro the second time and saw the issue?

no, i used nolva both rounds of pct, the first time i had no issues, the second time 1 month after pct i had rebound, so i got letro/caber to knock it out. now im just wanting to up my libido before i leave, but its not a BIG issue,,

id like however to get ideas on how to make sure this doesnt happen again rebound wise. One of my friends suggested running 1000mg of Chrysin ED or Adex at .25mg EOD, my choice, while on cycle then dont use nolva for pct but use 6bromo(AX PCT) instead because the chrysin or adex whichever i will have used, would have pretty much already quelled the aromatization meaning i wouldnt have to use something as strong as nolva for PCT, and it appears im more prone to gyno so he also suggested running aromasin just for my first week of pct as well. can any of you guys verify that this is effective? i dont wanna take his advice and have the same thing happen.:dunno: it sounds pretty effective

 

[One Shot]

and i appreciate everyones imput!

 

[bpmartyr]

SD doesn't aromatise. Taking an AI while the negative feedback from shutdown test production is already dropping estrogen is a bad idea. Consider a longer PCT where you add an AI in AFTER your E levels have had time to rise.

Perhaps:
Nolva or Toremifene weeks 1-5
ATD or 6bromo weeks 4-8

Adding Activate into the second phase with the AI has always been real nice for myself and others as well but not required.

 

[One Shot]

SD doesn't aromatise. Taking an AI while the negative feedback from shutdown test production is already dropping estrogen is a bad idea. Consider a longer PCT where you add an AI in AFTER your E levels have had time to rise.

Perhaps:
Nolva or Toremifene weeks 1-5
ATD or 6bromo weeks 4-8

Adding Activate into the second phase with the AI has always been real nice for myself and others as well but not required.

this was another idea i was thinking of trying out,,,but my buddy shot it down so i was like okkkkkk nevermind,,but i think this one would work as well. which would you rather use? nolva or toremifene and at what dosages on weeks 1-5?

 

[mooch2321]

There is your problem.

Letro is usually dosed .5mg EOD and still wrecks libido. You are destroying your estrogen instead of controlling it. I would change up to something a litlle more mild like 6bromo, 6-oxo or a low dose of ATD (25mg). IMO

are you sure your not thinking of arimidex....letro is regularly dosed much higher than this....

 

[nemo]

I'm not going to get technical, because I don't have the knowledge(a man's gotta know his limitations). But wouldn't little blue pills help?

 

[bpmartyr]

are you sure your not thinking of arimidex....letro is regularly dosed much higher than this....

You have it backwards. Adex is dosed higher. Letro is more potent.

 

[mooch2321]

sorry friend...but you have it backwards...letro is a stronger ai....but is dosed up to 2.5mg ed....for most purposes anastrozole is dosed .5mgs eod i think this is where your getting confused....i have never heard of a "normal" dose of letro being .5mg eod....

 

[bpmartyr]

Are you talking about bodybuilders or tumor patients? You admit Letro is stronger yet insist you should take more? Fascinating.

Letro destroys E2 levels and the libido with it. I'll admit I have been out of the game for a while but from what I remember those in the know always recommended .5 eod.

 

[mooch2321]

why dont you just do a search and see....im tired of this....and your confused...have a nice day....go mavs!

 

[Smiley]

If you have access to torem and nolva just pick up some cialis or viagara. (I'm assuming you got those from a research site.) I dont know how it affects people who have zero libido but i picked up some for fun. At half dose i could easily club a chick. :chairshot: lol

From everything i have heard, you need to dose letro high enough that your libido is killed to rid yourself of gyno. The cialis is no joke with zero sides.

 

[mooch2321]

^^^i love cialis....i have no ed probs and just took it for shits and giggles but its awesome!!!!!

 

[One Shot]

lmao.

 

[One Shot]

currently ramping down the letro and libido is coming back:biggthumpup:

 

[Smiley]

Just make sure to do it slow. A rebound before boot camp would be bad.

 

[One Shot]

yeppers im doing it slow,,,rebound before boot would not be a happy time

 

[One Shot]

i just had a possible revelation to what caused this,,,the first time i ran SD,,i used a Nolva only pct, and no probs,,,

the second time, my pct ended right around mid jan if i remember correctly, but pct was the same as the first time but i started to use clen/T3 after pct, now i used it before it was the leftovers from the first time i did clen/t3 earlier on so i know it was legit, but while i was ramping down on the t3, i ran out, and i ordered T3 from a different company, and im wondering if it was bunk cuz about 1.5-2weeks after is when i began to leak...so if im right i went from legit t3 to bunk while i was ramping down! is it possible that T3 caused my leaky nipps? im gonna look this up.