First Time Steriod User

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    First Time Steriod User


    This is a post about one persons view on solid first cycles and a few that follows. Wanted to post this cuz its pretty dead on, as far as im concerned. By the Bulk

    MY ADVICE TO ANYONE NEW WOULD BE TO USE THIS AS A REFERENCE TOOL, POST YOUR CYCLE DESIGNS ON THE BOARD AND LET THE MODS AND EXPERIENCED MEMBERS HELP YOU DESIGN A CYCLE BASED ON YOUR INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCE AND GOALS.

    Now before I get started, I have to emphisize that your diet is the key to achieving your goals.

    *Clomid therapy: 36 pills. 300mg day 1, 100mg next 10, 50mg final 10.

    Solid first cycle

    Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
    Week 1 to 10: 500mg of Test
    Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

    This will yield solid results. Depending on diet, training, and genetics, this cycle should yield anywhere form 15-25lbs to a first time gear user

    Bulking Cycle # 1

    Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
    Week 1 to 6: 30mg of D-bol ED
    Week 1 to 10: 600mg of EQ
    Week 1 to 10: 750mg of Test
    Week 11 to 12: 500ius of HCG and 20mg of Nolvadex ED
    Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

    Bulking Cycle # 2

    Week 1 to 5: 50mg of Anadrol ED
    Week 1 to 6: 750mg of Test
    Week 1 to 10: 400mg of Deca
    Week 5 to 6: 500ius of HCG and 20mg of Nolvadex ED
    Week 7 to 12: 75mg of Fina ED
    Week 7 to 12: 100mg of Prop ED
    Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winny ED
    Week 11 to 12: 500ius of HCG and 20mg of Nolavadex ED
    Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

    Cutting Cycle # 1

    Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop ED
    Week 1 to 8: 75mg of Fina ED
    Week 1 to 8: 50mg of winny ED
    Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron ED
    Week 11 to 12: 500ius of HCG with 20mg of Nolvadex ED
    Week 13 to 15: Clomid therapy

    Cutting Cycle # 2

    Week 1 to 16: .5mg of Arimidex EOD
    Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
    Week 1 to 8: 40mg of Oxandralone ED
    Week 4 to 12: 50mg of Prop ED
    Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winny ED
    Week 11 to 12: 500ius of HCG and 20mg of Nolvadex ED
    Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

    Lean Mass Cycle

    Week 1 to 16: .5mg of Arimidex EOD
    Week 1 to 12: 2ius of GH 5 on 2 off
    Week 1 to 10: 500mg of Test
    Week 1 to 12: 400mg of EQ
    Week 7 to 12: 40mg of Oxanadralone
    Week 11 to 12: 500ius of HCG and 20mg of Nolvadex ED
    Week 14 to 16: Clomid Therapy*


    There are many different combination that we can all use in the Iron Game. These are basic cycles that will work well for many users. I have left out Deca in these due to the fact that it shuts down HPTA and is easily avoid with the use of EQ. Some will say Fina will do the same thing, but because its ester works much faster, I believe it is not as suppressive as Deca. IMO Deca's use should be limited to more experienced users.

    Remember Diet is the key to all cycles. If you dont eat enough, you wont bulk, if you eat to much, you wont cut.

    Diet is the key to success in the Iron Game!!


    Guys, good luck and be safe!
    Last edited by sage; 01-04-2004 at 01:42 PM.

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    tren actually shuts one down harder than deca , so thats wrong info , but decent article over all i'd say ..either way , use of steroids will shut one down totally ..and i dont think its that hard to recover after using deca as people make it out to be .
    also , good to see he's focusing on emphasising the diet, thats where everything is really ..
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    On a personal note, the times I have had to take deca for my back (before surgery) it shut me down harder and I saw more sides than anything else..
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    Deca's harshness seems to vary greatly depending on the user. Some have no problem, while others are in misery for months.
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    I didn't feel that it shut me down that hard, it did make me retain alot of water into my fat face though.
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    Generally Tren is used as an acetate, so the only difference between the Fina and Deca is that PCT can be started sooner with Fina thus making for a faster recovery than Deca.
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