just curious..preference of h-drol or epi?
- 03-19-2009, 02:36 AM
- 03-19-2009, 03:16 AM
personally I had better gains off H-Drol
- 03-19-2009, 05:41 AM
03-19-2009, 07:14 AM
For me, epistane was good for lean mass gains, hdrol, strength,libido, and mass gains!!!
Think training's hard,. try losing!
03-19-2009, 12:35 PM
If not, can someone clarify a bit. I have some experience with Epi, but curiosity has me considering Hdrol. I have both on hand.
03-19-2009, 12:38 PM
03-19-2009, 12:51 PM
03-19-2009, 01:48 PM
Yes hdrol is dry, just for me I gained alot of strength and was a lil soft, but definitely bigger. Now epi was dryer still and I didn't go up much in strength and it was tight, lean mass gains. I hope this clarifies,.. everyone is different, this is just how they affected me!!!
Think training's hard,. try losing!
03-19-2009, 01:54 PM
Promagnon-25> H Drol > Epi IMHO.
H Roid/H Drol are dry while Epi is far from it.
You'll retain water with Epi. Granted, no as much as say Phera or MXT, but you WILL retain water.
I can't think of a place for Epi where you wouldn't have a superior substitute available for either cutting/recomp OR bulking.
Not to mention, PCT with Epi is usually harder than the compound's worth.
I'd never run two compounds IMHO... Epi or Superdrol.
However, everyBODY is different so to each his own.
Best of luck.
03-19-2009, 01:58 PM
03-19-2009, 05:57 PM
kinda wish i was doing h-drol now lol
03-19-2009, 05:58 PM
its funny everyone says epi is so dry but im retaining a little water...not that its severe or too annoying but it is a little bothersome
03-26-2009, 11:05 AM
03-26-2009, 05:26 PM
epi works faster so you could have a shorter cycle =less side
03-27-2009, 03:55 AM
epi gave me super dry gains.. kept all of it,.. in my final week at 50mg my veins were poping everywhere.. and i saw muscles i never knew i had
also only ran 3 and 1/2 week cycle
03-27-2009, 04:48 AM
this is interesting... i have no personal experience with epi but plan on using some in a little bit as i have some laying around. it's the first i've heard of wetness of the compound. if you were to try and reduce that water retention, what could be used effectively to combat it? cabergoline possibly? anastrozole? would combining it with a drier compound do any good? feel free to chime in...
03-27-2009, 12:44 PM
how about stacking both like that
epi 1-4 30/30/30/30
h-drol 3-6 50/50/50/50
or should i run h-drol first?
03-27-2009, 01:42 PM
03-27-2009, 08:02 PM
they were both dry for me
epi was dryer. i mean, that sh*t is dry!!! i actually lost strength in the first 3 weeks of epi cuz i lost about 5lbs of water and then afterwards, i gained strength cuz of the lean mass i gained. but the gains aren't that big. i liked epi though. but like the guy said above me, there are much better compounds out there.
h-drol was mild as well. low side effects and also dry. but not as dry as epi. i retained a little water with h-drol. strength gains were more noticable on h-drol. weight gains were about the same on both. 6-8 lbs.
the good thing is you don't have to do a crazy PCT for either cuz they're mild and gains are very easy to maintain if your pct is good along with your diet and training. i would still use a SERM though. pereferable clomid at 50mg
03-27-2009, 09:53 PM
03-28-2009, 12:40 AM
if im not mistakin i believe epi is much more androgenic so that should be somethign to take into account for those predisposed to certain conditions
03-28-2009, 03:26 PM
but its also highly anabolic, way more so than hdrol... qfactor of 12 vs. hdrol's q of like 2.2 or something near that
03-28-2009, 03:36 PM
are you kidding? 150mg of hdrol?!?!?!? damn
03-28-2009, 09:04 PM
the only thing i see wrong with that dose is a hole in your pocket for nothing. at that point you should start considering running something stronger.
03-29-2009, 11:58 AM
with these two i think everyone is different. i had one friend gain nearly 20 pounds on hdrol while another only gained 5 on epi, both bulking and similar builds. i can tell you that when i ran havoc, lost the bottle moving, and replaced it with epi, they are NOT the same compounds. whoever has ran both back to back should be able to tell you that.
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