KJ's NEW X-Mass Log (Sponsored)

[kjkriston]

This log wil officially start tommorrow. Due to a scheduling conflict I missed today's workout. Will Post all relavant info tommorrow to include stats, proposed dosing scheme.....etc. Another thanks to the guys @ Generic Labz for picking me to test this. I have never used this compound before for no particular reason. Should exciting. I did however use Revolt which was a clone to the original X-Mass. I will compare the two. Here are some pics they are all cold and not flexed:

 

[angel77]

what are u running? what cycles have you done in the past?

 

[nosnmiveins]

what are u running? what cycles have you done in the past?

X-mass by Generic Labz.



kj i'll be keeping an eye on this log

 

[kjkriston]

X-mass by Generic Labz.



kj i'll be keeping an eye on this log

Appreciate it. Ill do the best I can to update everyday but I'll at least update 3-5 times per week. I am going to run this @ maintenace calories to see if I can recomp on this. Right now I am looking to run dosing as follows:

week 1: 80 mg 40 PWO and 40 6 hrs later
week 2 : 120mgs (depending on sides) 80 PWO and 40 6 hrs later
week 3 - 5: same as week 2 dependant on sides.

Got Cycle suppport and PCT will include"
Post cycle support
t-911
Nolva

Cycle exprience is broad: SD, Halodrol, Epi, Furaz, Propadrol, Revolt, Winztrol.
Also Test Cyp, Winny, and Deca.

More tommorrow...

 

[kjkriston]

Day 1: Officially

Just got back from a pretty nice chest workout. My schedule is off because of missing yesterday but I'll just carry through Saturday instead. Overall I think the BCAA-EE definetly helped with endurance today. It was up quite a bit over any of my last few workouts. Took two cap PWO and then 4 after with my shake. Heres how the weights went:

Flat Bench: 135 x 15 WU
225 X 12
315 x 8
275 x 12

** I am still nursing tendonitis in my left wrist so that is why the weights vary so much. I use pain as a guide. It only hurts doing flat bench for whatever reason.

Pec Deck: 195 x 12 x 3

Cable Xovers: 75 x 12 x 4

Dips: 3 x 12 (BW)

BTW: Weight as of this morning: 230

Nothing too impressive I know but I had a stomach flu a couple of weeks back that kept me on the toilet and out of the gym for over a week. Lots quite a bit back then but it slowly coming back. Looking forward to the boost in strength here and its seeming ability to help shed some fat. Till tommorrow.....

 

[kjkriston]

Pics added above: I bulked up a bit from my last set of pics. Like I said I am looking to recomp here and drop some BF. And like I said all the pics are cold and unflexed. What BF% do you guys think I am around. If I flex I can see my upper 4 abs. My avatar pic is obviously flexed.

 

[chess315]

i am intersted in your log I ordered the new x-mass compound and am curious about it I heard it ws trenxtreme but now I hear its more of a wet comound good luck.

 

[chess315]

I was just looking at your numbers thats some pretty decent benching.

 

[chess315]

I would guess your bf is 14-16% that going from 15% down to 11or10 makes a huge change in someones apperance.

 

[kjkriston]

I was just looking at your numbers thats some pretty decent benching.

Appreciate that but 18 months ago my Max Bench was 425....now I'd be lucky to push 400. As far as BF goes I was guessing around the same. After this cycle depending on how the recomp goes I will continue through to summer like that. If I dont see the improvement I am looking for I will just cut slowly until summer.

 

[kjkriston]

So I just had an epiphany and @ 230 lbs with my cycle experience I am going all in @ 120mgs per day for all 4 weeks. I will drop down if the sides become too much for me. I see no reason to pvssy foot around with this.

 

[kjkriston]

Is there anyone out there that has run this compound over 100 mgs per day? I read a log where the guy ran dienedrone @ 150mgs per day and had bad sides but that 30 more mgs than I will be running so Ill be interested to see if I have sides at all. i know BP is usually an issue but I have an RX to combat that. I also heard shin pumps got bad @ 150 but were not present @ 100 so I am hoping 120 is within the threshhold. If anyone has any experience with this compound @ high dosage please chime in.

 

[kjkriston]

Back Day!

Decent workout this morning. Dosed 80mgs PWO with 2 caps of the BCAA-EE. Good endurance but nothing special to report. Lifts were as follows:

T-bar "machine":
60 x 16
105 x 12
150 x 10
150 x 8

Chins: 5 reps dead hang 4 sets

Seated Close Grip Rows:
195 x 12
210 x 12
225 x 10

Bent Over BB Rows:
135 x 10
185 x 10
205 x 9

Back Extensions
3 sets 10 body weight only

You'll notice I did not do deads. At the advice of my doctor I am taking a month off. I have some disc problems in my lumbar and they are trying to reduce swelling in the area. I promised him 1 month. Thats all their getting out of me. I love deads.
After the Wokout 4 caps BCAA with my shake which contains 48g WPI 60g WMS 7 grams glutamine. Still looking for a log of someone who dosed in this range to see the sides they got. So far I feel good so tommorrow is LEGS!

:FUfinger:

 

[kjkriston]

For any GL reps following this.... are my suggested dosages for the BCAA-EE what you would reccomend? 2 caps prior and 4 caps Post workout? Also the same question with the XMass... 2 prior and 1 cap 6 hours later?

 

[Royd The Noyd]

There is a 260lber on BB'ing.com who ran Dienedrone at 200mg's for about a week or a bit longer. He said he had no sides and the strength was awesome. He's bigger then your average user obviously.

 

[kjkriston]

There is a 260lber on BB'ing.com who ran Dienedrone at 200mg's for about a week or a bit longer. He said he had no sides and the strength was awesome. He's bigger then your average user obviously.

Thats good news to me. I figured @ 230 I wouldnt be too far off running this @ 120mgs.....hell it may be a perfect dose. I will not run it any higher so I am hoping this will hit the sweet spot for me. Epi @ 50mgs is the threshhold for me as far as sides go. Cardio goes out the window at that point though. I got back pumps just driving sometimes...but the strength gains and dry mass gains I got were unparrelled. Hoping for the strength gains and hoping for a couple of lean pounds as well with this compound.

 

[chess315]

I'm curous to see how this kicks in I cant find out anything about the compound either of the stuff I find people get a every kind of result you can imagin so that doesnt tell me anything but you seem like you are at least eating and training right. And have good knowledge of similar compounds.

 

[kjkriston]

Of the few logs on this stuff and the few friends that took tren extreme all had amazing results so that is what I am pulling for.

 

[kjkriston]

Light Leg Day

To much of your dissapointment Squats were also put on hold for the month. This does not bother me nearly as much as the deads because honestly I hate squats. They are however a necessary evil but not for this month. Not a lot of time this morning so the workout was short and sweet. Heres the numbers.

Leg Extension:
130 x 16
190 x 12
220 x 12 x 2

Uni lateral Leg Curls:
45 x 12 x 3

Calf Raises:
230 x 12 x 4

Leg Press:
385 x 12
475 x 12 x 2

Thats it. Quick short and easy. I have noticed that I am defientely retaining glycogen as the scale is up 3-4 lbs already and I feel very FULL all day, almost like a small pump. I truly believe the BCAA is helping with my endurance. Shoulders are on the menu for tommorrow.

 

[kjkriston]

Here shortly I will be ordering some USP JACKED! As of right now I am not using a PWO stim other than a cup of coffee occasionally. I was using bulk caffiene tabs but nutra has been out of them forever. So jacked it is. The price is right and the feedback is good. I also ran out of Kre-Alkalyn which nutra is still sold out of as well so I tihnk Ill be picking up some bulk Creatine Mono. I ahvent use that stuff since I was in my teens. Hope it doesnt give me too much bloat because it didnt then.

 

[Royd The Noyd]

When are you taking the bcaa's? Intra?

 

[kjkriston]

When are you taking the bcaa's? Intra?

Nope...taking 2 caps of BCAA-EE (the GL supp) prior and 4 caps post workout with my shake.
Every 4 caps contains: 3.9g BCAA EE
1.8g Leucine EE
900mg IsoLuciene EE
900mg Valine EE

So @ 6 caps per day I am getting almost 6g of BCAA EE.
Considering the higher Bio Availability of Ethyl Esters I can imagine that this is much more efficient than the 20g of amino acids I use to take daily.

 

[MgoBlue]

Hey, I finally made it over to your log. Looking good! My workouts are going to be on hold for another week due to work. Good question on the BCAA dosing. Oh, and Jacked is no joke!! I got two of them when they came out & friggin' love the stuff!

 

[kjkriston]

Shoulders....feeling good

Still feel real pumped today. Shoulder workout was a breeze. Not posting numbers because I left my book in the car and was way too lazy to get it. SO far no sides to speak of except a little bit of interrupted sleep but that could be cause by many things Anyway, got Arms tommorrow and then a day off finally. Will update weight and all that stuff on Monday.

 

[kjkriston]

Quick Update: Sorry for the lack of posts. Had a real busy weekend and am driving 3 hours to see Slipknot tonight and then driving back right after. No gym today but will go late tommorrow. I've been waiting to see these guys in concert for years.

 

[kjkriston]

SLIPKNOT was ****ing amazing! God I have waited soo long to see them play. Absolutely brutal. Anyway. Recovering today..... Chest first thing in the morning. Just ordered some Jacked so Ill be starting that as soon as I get it from Nutra.....also picked up some of those Ecstacy Shots that Dsade just put out. Cant wait to try those out.

 

[kjkriston]

Feeling like crap....

So I think all the nasty people at the concert have gotten me sick. Woke up with a mild sore throat and a pretty gnarly cough. A general sense of fatigue is sucking the life out of me. Hence I had a pretty crappy Chest workout. Numbers were down across the board. I do not blame this on the XMASS just the sickness. I am super supplementing with vitamin C and Anti-Oxidants and pounding the water. I am however pretty resilient to sickness though So I am sure Ill be good in a few days.

 

[xtraflossy]

Still feel real pumped today. Shoulder workout was a breeze. Not posting numbers because I left my book in the car and was way too lazy to get it. SO far no sides to speak of except a little bit of interrupted sleep but that could be cause by many things Anyway, got Arms tommorrow and then a day off finally. Will update weight and all that stuff on Monday.

Sleep issues are reported with tren, also with this compound it seems.
If I dose too late in the evening, I have issues too.
I go to bed around 11pm, i I dose at 6pm I have issues. 5pm, not so much.

One trick I remember just now using is dhea. small dose. Either the estrogen or progesterone created seems to calm things down. I might have to remember that if I run into problems again

 

[kjkriston]

Sleep issues are reported with tren, also with this compound it seems.
If I dose too late in the evening, I have issues too.
I go to bed around 11pm, i I dose at 6pm I have issues. 5pm, not so much.

One trick I remember just now using is dhea. small dose. Either the estrogen or progesterone created seems to calm things down. I might have to remember that if I run into problems again

Hmmm.... Interesting. I usually use melatonin and valerian to kill the sleep problems but I have had them for years. DHEA ..... I will have to pick some up and try like 50mg to see if that changes anything.

 

[Royd The Noyd]

A slipknot concert would be pretty cool

 

[kjkriston]

Sorry for the delay

Okay...I spent almost 35 minutes doing an update and got an error message so heres the abbreviated update.

Weight: 239 +9lbs
(alot of this must be glycogen.)
Strength: Way up (that was the most reported effect with this compound.)
Libido: Way DOWN! (I can perform fine...just the drive to do it is way down for me)

I still feel extrmely pumped all day. I also however feel bloated alot like I am retaining some water. I know this compund was known to be dry and I am NOT saying its wet but its not completely dry. Kind of a contradicting point but just my observations. This is so far a real good bulker and I think would be an AMAZING stack with Epi. I could guess like 10lbs of keepable post PCT gains with a 5 week run of those two compounds. Chest is tommorrow and the number will be posted. Got my JACKED the other day as well and will start with 2 scoops tommorrow morning. Until then....later

 

[kjkriston]

JACKED......awesome!

took two scoops of jacked this morning before my workout and all I can say is that this is probably my favorite PWO ever. Perfect amount of energy and focus with no noticable crash. Anyways, pretty good chest workout with a minor pain in my left wrist. Ill be honest it pissed me off! I just got over tendonitis in the same wrist and now it is grinding under heavy weight on flat bench (325). Anyway heres the numbers
Flat Bench
135 x 20
225 x 12
325 x 6
275 x 10

Incline DB
100 x 10
100 x 10
100 x 8

Cable xovers
35 x 10 x2
30 x10

Pec Dec
185 x 10
170 x 9
155 x 10

Dips
4 x 12 (BW)

All weights are noticably up except flat bench from the above mentioned wrist problem
All sleep problems have subsided, libido is still down, and I am still feeling bloated in the stomach area. I look bigger but not leaner but not fatter eithers. Pumps have been above average and seem to last alot longer....like and hour after my workout. Back day tommorrow.

 

[angel77]

effects sound alot like Superdrol. Supposed to be dry but definately retain water, perform OK but desire is down, nice gains in strength. Looks good so far man. Nice lifting.

 

[kjkriston]

effects sound alot like Superdrol. Supposed to be dry but definately retain water, perform OK but desire is down, nice gains in strength. Looks good so far man. Nice lifting.

Thank You Kind Sir! I definetly had a more extremem pumps and horrible lethargy on SD.....but all the other observations are very alike.

 

[angel77]

Thank You Kind Sir! I definetly had a more extremem pumps and horrible lethargy on SD.....but all the other observations are very alike.

I've certainly had some lethargy. I seem ok throughout the day but nights are really tough. I'm taking the Designer Supplements Superdrol and have had a great cycle thus far. Aside from 2 blood pressure headaches ( 1 because of a salty meal, and another from taking f*ckin' Viagra) and the lethargy, I haven't had any negative pumps at all be it back, shin, or calf. All good in that department. Cheers KJ, I'll have to check this compound out. What week did you notice the strength go up?

 

[kjkriston]

I've certainly had some lethargy. I seem ok throughout the day but nights are really tough. I'm taking the Designer Supplements Superdrol and have had a great cycle thus far. Aside from 2 blood pressure headaches ( 1 because of a salty meal, and another from taking f*ckin' Viagra) and the lethargy, I haven't had any negative pumps at all be it back, shin, or calf. All good in that department. Cheers KJ, I'll have to check this compound out. What week did you notice the strength go up?

Week 2 it started to climb. The weight came very quick however.

 

[angel77]

Week 2 it started to climb. The weight came very quick however.

That's how I responded to Super. I gained weight right off the bat but strength didn't kick in until day 12. I'm on day 21 and weight is sitting right around +15 lbs. My diet is high cal now so I'm hoping to put a few more pounds on but I need to keep around 10 if I can. I am always more concerned on getting stronger not getting bigger.

 

[MgoBlue]

Lookin good KJ! I'm w/ you on the feeling pumped all day thing. I did arms two days ago & the pump/vascularity is still like I just walked out of the gym!

I'm hoping my 2nd full week gets better. So far, my strength has not gone up, actually feels as though it's dropped a little. Considering bumping up to 120mg.

Hmm, stacking w/ Epi you say.. I may consider that one. Possibly add it onto the 3rd week & keep it going a little longer

 

[reubywax]

KJ im starting to run the x mass tomorrow....Im just wondering how i should run pct when finished, how long should i start pct after i finish the cycle? further i have a pack of 20 serpafar (clomiphene citrate) 50mg tabs, how should I run them.

Finally lol, if i wanted to cut up after this using epistane, how would this run into the above, do i need a PCT after the x-mass or should i just wait a couple o weeks and run the epi instead before PCT....? thanks

 

[kjkriston]

KJ im starting to run the x mass tomorrow....Im just wondering how i should run pct when finished, how long should i start pct after i finish the cycle? further i have a pack of 20 serpafar (clomiphene citrate) 50mg tabs, how should I run them.

Finally lol, if i wanted to cut up after this using epistane, how would this run into the above, do i need a PCT after the x-mass or should i just wait a couple o weeks and run the epi instead before PCT....? thanks

Run the clomid on the first day after your cycle and run it @ 100mgs for 5 days then 50 for the next 10 days. I would have gotten more to run @ 150 then 100 then 50 for 4 weeks. But they way I described is the best use I can think of. Run PCT Assist along side of this as directed on the bottle.

 

[kjkriston]

Sorry gone for too long....

Okay so I know that I have been delinquent on my updates....partially for reasons and partially from laziness. I was in Georgia for 5 days which accounts for some time I didnt update. I do however have an update with good news. Here we go: New Flat bench PR, up 11 lbs overall, and only minor sides to anounce!

For the first time in a year and a half I pushed 315 on flat bench 10 TIMES unassisted!

Weight: 241 lbs as of this morning and looking leaner than a week ago. Not sure if it was my diet but that bloat has gone away.

Only sides to report are the drop in libido which I am counteracting with the t-911 I was going to use for PCT. I only take when necessary if you know what I mean. The sleep issues are gone and I have had no back pumps to report, and I am VERY susceptable to back pumps.

With just a week left I can say that this cycle ahs been a great success....especially considering the lack of ANY severe sides and a hefty weight gain. I will continue to log and absolutely log through PCT to see if I can maintain these gains. Again my new PCT will be Nolva, PCT Asisst, and p5p if necessary. TOmmorrow is back day. Been making big gains there as well.

 

[xtraflossy]

Weight: 241 lbs as of this morning and looking leaner than a week ago. Not sure if it was my diet but that bloat has gone away.


Holy Crap! +~10 lbs!! ...Thats freakn amazing considering this is a slower acting compound. :biglaugh:

 

[MgoBlue]

great gains dude!

 

[kjkriston]

My final day on XMASS

Today will be chest day and my last official workout on XMASS. I will post all final stats and weights tommorrow as I am now on nights and wont be home until 2 or 3 in the morning.

 

[reubywax]

KJ, IM ONLY MY SECOND WEEK OF X MASS AND STILL ON 2 TABS, WHEN DID YOU BUMP UP TO THREE?

 

[kjkriston]

KJ, IM ONLY MY SECOND WEEK OF X MASS AND STILL ON 2 TABS, WHEN DID YOU BUMP UP TO THREE?

After the third day I decided to go all out. I was 230 lbs when I started though. If your in that weight class I would go for it. The sides were very minimal. Have something for libido on hand however. No problem getting up just didnt really have the desire without some provoking. I used t-911 to help that.

 

[kjkriston]

The final workout while ON

Went very smooth. Not any notable increases but no drop in weights even though my cals have been a little down due to changing to nights. My body doesnt adapt quickly to sleep changes so Ill be hurting for a few days. Bench was still strong and all isolations were good. Endurance is still up as well. That was the most remarkable thing about this cycle endurance went up quickly and stayed up. Recovery time was definetly decreased, and obviously there was quite a bit of mass gained. Although I thought I was getting leaner I think I stayed the same but had some calorie overflow that caused me to think I was bloated and after fixing that I did lean back out. I dont think I dropped any BF however. This is a solid lean bulk compound and great for strength. Only sides reported was mild insomnia that was solved with valerian and melatonin, drop in libido that was solved with t-911, and that was all that was noted. For the price this is a solid compound to pack on some serious size.

PCT starts as follows:
Nolva 60/60/60/60/40/40/40/20/20/20/20
PCT Assist as direct for 30 days
On HAnd p5p

Will continue to update through out PCT

Thanks again to GL for this opportunity.....you guys rock!

 

[kjkriston]

Does anyone have a method for taking liquid nolva to mask the taste or make the aftertaste last less time? God it is awful. I've mixed it with a variety of drinks and the after taste just lingers.

 

[angel77]

Does anyone have a method for taking liquid nolva to mask the taste or make the aftertaste last less time? God it is awful. I've mixed it with a variety of drinks and the after taste just lingers.

I've put orange juice in my mouth 1st then squirted the Nolva in and swallow fast. It's not perfect but makes it alot easier to handle. Hah! That sh*t is AWFUL! :684:I also drink really strong coffee in the morning and if I do the same thing with my coffee (when not so hot) the bitterness of the coffee makes the nolva almost void. I like it better than the OJ. Cheers and good luck holding your gains through PCT KJ, angel77 :firedevil:

 

[Skigazzi]

Does anyone have a method for taking liquid nolva to mask the taste or make the aftertaste last less time? God it is awful. I've mixed it with a variety of drinks and the after taste just lingers.

If you have any empty capsules, just put the serving into a capsule, close it, and pop it.