trenadrol

[ibanezman08]

is trenadrol a 19 nor steroid?

if so, i wish it would've said so in their advertising.
i would've bought some dostinex if that's the case.

[bigpapa]

i dont think anybody knows what it is bro.

[nosnmiveins]

its a mystery compound. says one thing but tests out as something else apparently

[mooch2321]

im unfamiliar with this product...whats the chem nomenclature? cant seem to find it in a search

edit:but it seems to me that if it says one thing but shows up as something else then this is another example of the company iether being dumb or shady...

[bigpapa]

17b-methoxy-Trienbolone

[mooch2321]

oh its methoxy trn...get your dostinex ibanez

[mooch2321]

or run p-5-p and tell me if you get gyno...i need a guinea pig

[futurepilot]

or run p-5-p and tell me if you get gyno...i need a guinea pig

My left nip got big on a cycle of Phera, within 3 days on 200mg of B-6, it went back to normal. I ran 200mg's for 7 days, no problems in PCT.

Based on that i would have to assume P-5-P works.

[mooch2321]

My left nip got big on a cycle of Phera, within 3 days on 200mg of B-6, it went back to normal. I ran 200mg's for 7 days, no problems in PCT.

Based on that i would have to assume P-5-P works.

wait...you ran normal b-6? not the p-5-p? i thought the dosing on p-5-p had to be like 200mgs?

[futurepilot]

wait...you ran normal b-6? not the p-5-p? i thought the dosing on p-5-p had to be like 200mgs?

P-5-P is the better choice because of the side effects. Not sure about the dosage. I would say 200mgs is correct. If you consider that 50mgs P-5-P is 30mgs of B-6, then you can understand why the B-6 worked so well.

I ran 200mgs of b-6 because i happened to already have it lying around. 200mgs is the upper limit of what i have found acceptable in my research. i wouldnt dose it that high for more than a week though. It has the potential to cause nerve damage.

[mooch2321]

P-5-P is the better choice because of the side effects. Not sure about the dosage. I would say 200mgs is correct. If you consider that 50mgs P-5-P is 30mgs of B-6, then you can understand why the B-6 worked so well.

I ran 200mgs of b-6 because i happened to already have it lying around. 200mgs is the upper limit of what i have found acceptable in my research. i wouldnt dose it that high for more than a week though. It has the potential to cause nerve damage.

ok..my im really only starting to learn about p-5-p but i thought that b-6 converted to p-5-p after interacting with the liver...how can 30mgs of b-6 convert to 50 mgs p-5-p? and can you elaborate on the nerve damage part as well...im very interested in this product as i am very succeptible to prolactin induced gyno flare-ups and i hate the sides of caber

[futurepilot]

ok..my im really only starting to learn about p-5-p but i thought that b-6 converted to p-5-p after interacting with the liver...how can 30mgs of b-6 convert to 50 mgs p-5-p? and can you elaborate on the nerve damage part as well...im very interested in this product as i am very succeptible to prolactin induced gyno flare-ups and i hate the sides of caber

Im not really sure about how 30=50, thats just what I read off the labels.

B-6 in high doses can cause nerve damage, look for bassgod272, or something like that. He did too much B-6, now his left leg is numb.Thats why you use the P-5-P.

I've posted a bunch of studies on the subject on here, they might be hard to find, I'll try and dig up the old posts. But I laid out a good 5+ studies in a past thread. I think I was arguing with ziquor, over the fact that their Cycle assist dosage is so high, to get comparable doses as the other ingredients in Cycle support.

[Titanium]

I was curious about the B6 dosage in Cycle support. My bottle says 50mg per dose and I take 2 does a day. I will be taking this dose of 100mg per day for 6 weeks. I will be adding Trenadrol to my cycle and I am not sure if I need to add some additional P-5-P? I am also taking 1-Carboxy before I workout and before bed.

[futurepilot]

I was curious about the B6 dosage in Cycle support.

There is no B-6 in Cycle Support, maybe you were thinking of another product?

[ibanezman08]

i didn't get gyno
i'm all done
i'm in PCT now.

taking clomid and nolva

i'll get dostinex for my next cycle of any PH cuz you never know what the f*ck you're taking. pisses me off.

[Titanium]

There is no B-6 in Cycle Support, maybe you were thinking of another product?

My mistake I meant Cycle Assist.

[futurepilot]

My mistake I meant Cycle Assist.

Makes more sense. Ya you could throw some p-5-p in there, It wont hurt, and it will give you that extra security. But its probably not mandatory.

Whats the cycle your adding it too?

[dg806]

There is no B-6 in Cycle Support, maybe you were thinking of another product?

Correct. Thanks FP.

[GotTest]

If you don't get crazy with dosing, a good dopamine agonist stack works fine.
I haven't heard of one person having prolactin issues while using it. Myself included.
STACK:
P-5-P 2tabs/day(NOW Brand)
Tyrosine 500mg 2x/day
Mucuna Pruriens (15%-20% L-Dopa)4-6g/day

Phenylalanine can also be used but it is one step "upstream" from Tyrosine in the Dopamine pathway so I just don't use it.
It can also have stimulant effects which can increase heart rate. NOT a good idea on Tren.

Oh yeah...I have also heard that 1-carboxy also works to increase Dopamine levels. I've just never seen any research or tried it myself.

Pathway to Dopamine:

[ryaroberts]

so whats the diff between trenadrol (17b-methoxy-Trienbolone) and trena (19-norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione)