a simple hdrol cycle
- 01-07-2009, 11:51 PM
- 01-07-2009, 11:55 PM
- 01-07-2009, 11:58 PM
01-08-2009, 12:05 AM
well, i havent done a steroid as of yet man, and dont plan to anytime soon, (im happy with who i am). and no it wont be enough. get a serm and test booster for your pct. I would go with DTH, i had used it and i liked it very well. and maybe look into cycle support. ( i believe that may be expensive). but ive been reading up on cycles for a while though buddy.
01-08-2009, 12:08 AM
01-08-2009, 12:09 AM
What experience do you have with ph’s? What is your weight and height? What is your goal? I need to know to determine the dose and length of the cycle
01-08-2009, 12:10 AM
01-08-2009, 12:10 AM
01-08-2009, 12:12 AM
01-08-2009, 12:15 AM
Side effects aren’t bad at all but if you have the money and don’t mind blowing it you could use a cycle support ….better safe than sorry. I would say it’s not needed and a serm isn’t needed in my opinion unless maybe you took a really high dose but in that case you could just take something stronger at a lower dose.
01-08-2009, 12:16 AM
i'm 5'8", 174lbs, not sure abt the body fat, should between 13~15%, i want to put on some lean mass,
i just finished a 11oxo cycle one month ago, may start the new cycle 2 months after
i plan to run hdrol at 50/50/50/50, will use cycle support during on cycle and pct
01-08-2009, 12:18 AM
01-08-2009, 12:20 AM
01-08-2009, 12:51 AM
Don’t get me wrong I think it is good that you are going to use cycle support since it is a methyl and is a ph but for some one on a budget it isn’t going to kill you not to take it.for a short cycle of h-drol I would normally tell anyone planning on taking a ph to use cycle support but with my experience with h-drol it has been real mild and as long as you eat healthy and aren’t out drinking all the time your body will be just fine. I just took a little milk thistle from cvs and when I had blood work done the doc told me everything is good
01-08-2009, 01:06 AM
01-08-2009, 01:10 AM
01-08-2009, 04:19 AM
01-08-2009, 11:00 AM
01-08-2009, 11:02 AM
01-08-2009, 12:24 PM
01-08-2009, 12:25 PM
01-08-2009, 12:30 PM
I just got a membership at Womacks off 377 here in Keller. I was at LA Fitness here in Keller until, a trainer got my wife for a 1000 bucks! (Well got me cause she dont work and used my debit card) He lied about a bunch of things and told her to hide the cost from me and was trying to hit on her. I really like that gym too!!
(Sorry for the hi-jacked thred)
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01-08-2009, 12:46 PM
yeah sorry for the hijack as well but i hope if and when you go through with the h-drol cycle you log it man, sounds like a good compound, although i believe havoc may be somewhat stronger. anyways, trainers are sneeky little ****s man. i dont trust them one bit with girls at the gym, hugging them and touching someone elses property( so to speek).
01-08-2009, 12:49 PM
ironface, whats your age if you dont mind me asking. and you do go through the cycle it would cool to see some bloodwork posted. im actually thinking about getting bloodwork doen myself.
01-08-2009, 12:52 PM
01-08-2009, 12:53 PM
01-08-2009, 01:10 PM
Looks fine, just try to get a SERM in case you get a flare up post PCT. Always better to be safe than sorry
01-08-2009, 01:53 PM
01-12-2009, 09:36 PM
Experience: NOne, will be first ph/ds run
Weight: 189 lbs
Bf: estimated 16% (maybe less)
Plan on doing
pct: reversitol caps 3/2/2/1 plus
anabolic inovations pcs: 0/0/4/4/4/4
cycle support during cycle and pct and liver longer on pct.
How that looks? comments suggestions, flamming , etc welcome.
Also, what sides should i expect even if theyr mild from hdrol??? al ive heard is mild calf and back pumps
01-12-2009, 10:02 PM
Maybe some mild back pumps and dried out joints but I didn’t experience any sides. I did have trouble falling asleep but I don’t know if that was from the h-drol or my work schedule at the time. It looks like you have a good cycle planed I don’t know too much about the products you are taking for pct but im sure they will be good. Like a lot of people say have a serm on hand just in case but it shouldn’t be needed.
01-12-2009, 10:05 PM
01-12-2009, 10:57 PM
H-drol has low sides and maintainable gains because it is relatively mild for being methylated so you can run a longer cycle. Typically, slower gains over a longer period tend to be solid and easier to keep after PCT.
I believe you should run a SERM no matter what. Messing with hormones is like playing with fire - you don't know how your body may react. JJohn advice is best, at least have one on hand. If you don't need it, you can use it if/when you run something stronger. I think most people who say you won't need a SERM are obviously trying to justify the fact that they didn't use them.
Good luck to you.
01-12-2009, 10:59 PM
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