I totally agree to stack it with test. that is why I stacked it with 4-androstenediol (converts to test). the reason behind stacking it with some other non methyl pro hormone/pro steroid, w/e you wanna call it is because the biggest reason injecting is wonderful is because you inject say, 250-500mg (of test or some other aas) once or twice a week (maybe more, depending on the injectable) and you have (unlike your normal production of of test, which is up and down throught the day) a high & steady level of androgens flowing through your body. one of the down side of orals is that they are short. with the half life (active time in your blood) of most orals being around 8 hours (varys depending on metabolism, and how healthy your liver is) causes you to have to take multiple dosages throughout the day.
with what I suggested, the poster would only have to dose one, maybe twice during the day, once being 30-45min pre workout, and the other around 8hrs later. I was fine with even taking 3 caps of decabolen e.d. + 1000mg of 4-androstenediol (on paper that would convert to 750mg of test per week, but I doubt I had the enzymes to keep such a high conversion going on) it wasn't my first cycle and my liver was fine, pct was very long and hard, harder than I've ever had with any other cycle, but I would say a 4 week cycle would of felt better, and it was worth it.
and for the poster who gained 20 something lbs on his first tren cycle, congrats, and no im not saying you would of gained more, but most users who do a cycle right will have gains like yours, you only get one shot at virgin receptors, best to make it count.
Y'all may think it's bad advice, and yes, decabolen would be enough by itself. I personally dont like superdrol anymore, and will never use that compound again, so i'll never use decabolen again, but I will stack pp/hd/epistane later on, with tren also and will post the log (most likely) in the future months too come.
no I dont think its best for a first time cycle to experiment with stacking this and that, but the poster stated he's done 2 cycles of what he calls *good sht* w/e that means, i've stacked sd/tbol/var and the gains were slow, solid but not that diff than what I can buy legally. if you want all out gains, go with decabolen, 2 caps e.d. for 3-4 weeks will be enough to produce unbelievable gains. do you need to? no you dont.
and if your under 21, stay tha f**k away from this.
