19nor vs ....

[WhiteFang]

Currently for 1st week on the 19-NOR cycle (oral)
19 Norandrosta-4.9 diene-3,17 dione. What is good to add in week 3 and 4 for extra mass ? Was thinking about Havoc, any other ideas ?

[Rugger]

M-drol, 1-T

[youknoww]

how is that 19-nor working for you as far as gains and sides?

[WhiteFang]

how is that 19-nor working for you as far as gains and sides?

First week, no problems, besides some mild headaches. I'm taking 70mg a day, 1 cap is 35mg. Gains, strength is up, some minor shredding going on.

[bigpapa]

First week, no problems, besides some mild headaches. I'm taking 70mg a day, 1 cap is 35mg. Gains, strength is up, some minor shredding going on.

shredding as in bodyfat or SHEDDING as in hair?

[WhiteFang]

shredding as in bodyfat or SHEDDING as in hair?

Bodyfat, + 0.8KG and lost fat.

[bigpapa]

Bodyfat, + 0.8KG and lost fat.

interesting. what is ur diet like? some people i know are retaining water weight on it

[WhiteFang]

interesting. what is ur diet like? some people i know are retaining water weight on it

Lots of water because of the headaches. Hawthorn berries and protein rich food and the daily BCAA's. When i take the 19nor im trying to eat some fat food with it. I have no problems with water at this moment (im in week 1).

[mixedup]

interesting. what is ur diet like? some people i know are retaining water weight on it

I just came off of it 2 weeks into PCT i retained no water on it i believe i used the same brand he did because of the dosage

[WhiteFang]

I just came off of it 2 weeks into PCT i retained no water on it i believe i used the same brand he did because of the dosage

Cool, what were your gains and maybe side effects on this product ?

[mixedup]

Cool, what were your gains and maybe side effects on this product ?

no side effects that i can really mention it was on the tailend of a heavy cycle so hawthorne berry etc had already been in my system for several weeks so that is a factor to remember. goods were strength and a leaning/hardening effect.

[bigpapa]

no side effects that i can really mention it was on the tailend of a heavy cycle so hawthorne berry etc had already been in my system for several weeks so that is a factor to remember. goods were strength and a leaning/hardening effect.

which product were u using.

[mixedup]

which product were u using.

infinite labs cyclo tren 70mgs a day split into 2 doses

[WhiteFang]

infinite labs cyclo tren 70mgs a day split into 2 doses

I am using 19-NOR Tren - Tri City Chemical labs
35mg per cap, taking 2 a day.

[papapumpsd]

I have read about libidio issues w/tren products. Anyone here run into that? If you ran it and didn't experience libido issues (both ON cycle and post-PCT) please list your support supps and/or PCT

Last thing we want is a useless slinky.

[mixedup]

I have read about libidio issues w/tren products. Anyone here run into that? If you ran it and didn't experience libido issues (both ON cycle and post-PCT) please list your support supps and/or PCT

Last thing we want is a useless slinky.

I ran it and didn't have any but then again i'm probablly an exception because I can run fina standalone and be just fine.

But support supps were 1000mg of milk thistle and Hawthorne Berry sorry don't have the bottle at the moment so unsure on the dosage.

PCT weeks 1-2 was just revistrol and lean extreme with milkthistle and Hawthorne Berry. Still on PCT as we speak

And before anyone gets on me about my PCT check out my log One week into OTC PCT before you make any comments. I've done SERMS and AAS for close to 15 years it was a conscious decision to go OTC for many reasons detailed in my log.