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so ATD will give you a false positive for eq

  1.  11-04-2008  09:58 AM
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    so ATD will give you a false positive for eq


    Just thought this was interesting and may be relevant to anyone here using ATD. CSAC tests show ATD to give positive test for boldenone use.



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    Related link or story?

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    Originally Posted by futurepilot View Post
    Related link or story?

    I couldn't remember if i was able to link to other boards but it's on sherdog (mma website) fighter is elite xc heavyweight champion bigfoot

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    thanks man. i should be able to find it.

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    I dont see anything in the article regarding ATD, "'Bigfoot' Enlists Big Gun for Steroids Appeal".

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    Originally Posted by mixedup View Post
    I couldn't remember if i was able to link to other boards but it's on sherdog (mma website) fighter is elite xc heavyweight champion bigfoot
    I don't believe that for a minute. He must be useing that as an excuse. Need to do a little research.

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    ATD can easily throw off a test because one of the metabolites gives a false reading for test levels. He was taking Novedex, btw.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

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    Originally Posted by angelo212 View Post
    I don't believe that for a minute. He must be useing that as an excuse. Need to do a little research.
    He must have been stacking it with flaxseed oil.

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    Originally Posted by futurepilot View Post
    I dont see anything in the article regarding ATD, "'Bigfoot' Enlists Big Gun for Steroids Appeal".

    From the article CSAC holds up Silvia Suspension

    Silva’s defense centered around the fighter’s use of the over-the-counter nutritional supplement Novodex, which has been documented to cause false positives for Boldenone.


    Esther Lin/Sherdog.com


    Antonio Silva's suspension
    was upheld on Wednesday.Novodex, which contains the testosterone booster ATD, is currently not included on the CSAC’s list of banned substances. Through his translator and manager, Alex Davis, Silva said he’d taken the supplement for four weeks prior to the bout.

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    Originally Posted by mixedup View Post
    I could be wrong but isnt Novedex main ingredient ATD?
    ATD is part of Novedex XT, but I still dont see any mention in that article.

  11.  11-05-2008  11:21 AM
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    Originally Posted by futurepilot View Post
    ATD is part of Novedex XT, but I still dont see any mention in that article.
    Jacobs produced test results from another laboratory, Aegis Labs, that tested a separate urine sample from Silva taken 40 days after the commission’s test. It reportedly came back negative for Boldenone, but did show the presence of ATD, a testosterone aid that produces metabolites of the illegal steroid, according to the Aegis doctor who conducted the test.

    Jacobs claimed Silva could not have been positive for Boldenone given its extremely long half-life, compared to the relatively short half-life of ATD.

    Somewhat ironically, CSAC commissioners raised questions about the chain of custody for Silva’s Aegis sample, which Jacobs could not provide documentation for. Chain of custody was one of the central pieces of Jacob’s defense of Sean Sherk in December of 2007.

    Commissioners also noted that Silva could not produce proof that he’d ever purchased the Novidex.

    Commissioner Dr. Christopher Giza noted that a level of even 1 nanogram of Boldenone in the body was widely accepted as proof of steroid use, and confirmed that Aegis labs had a more lax standard of testing for the steroid, accepting levels up to 10 nanograms in a test sample. CSAC’s laboratories, Quest Diagnostics and WADA facility Laboratoire De Controle Du Dopage, hold a 1 nanogram standard. Jacobs countered that he was not granted access to those laboratories.

    The CSAC did affirm that its WADA laboratory found ATD metabolites in Silva’s “A” and “B” sample taken after the July fight.

    At the conclusion of both sides’ arguments, the motion to uphold Silva’s suspension and fine was unanimous.

    Source: http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...7422&zoneid=13


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    Originally Posted by noobster View Post
    He must have been stacking it with flaxseed oil.
    THat was some funny sh#*.

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