- 11-08-2003, 04:51 PM
finishing the last 4% off on a "cutting cycle" i 've been on since august. dropping 2lbs of bodyfat a week doesn't exactly boost strength. got the creatine going. like to use the homebrew cyclo-nordiol nose spray (sugar booger!) for a pre workout boost sometimes. i'm not clear, is there any benefit from oral 4ad for pre workout boosts here & there? i'm really trying to lay off consistent use of the hormonals until the new year & then hit the transderms & maybe m1t hard.
- 11-08-2003, 05:35 PM
I've used up to 1g of oral 4-ad a day, and no, the pre workout boost was nothing special.
If you've not already built up a tolerance to ECA, than 200mg caffine + 50mg ephedra will give you a serious kick in the ass pre-workout.
- 11-10-2003, 10:54 AM
I tried 900 mg/day of oral 4ad & got no energy boost from it. I was taking (3) 300mg caps spread out, with one 30 minutes before training. Maybe if you took 600-900mg immediately before training, you'd get the effect you're looking for.
11-11-2003, 09:14 AM
11-11-2003, 01:36 PM
11-12-2003, 02:42 PM
11-12-2003, 03:57 PM
try some inrage, or physco-cyclo-1test from 1fast. It is dirt cheap and it works great. Other than that I dont think many other PHs would be good for preworkout, only those of androgenic nature.
11-12-2003, 05:06 PM
thanks guys, i was really just wondering about the negative aspects of doing oral 4ad. from what little i understand spiking your bloodstream with orals might end up as alot of estrogen?
11-13-2003, 11:35 AM
No real negatives except for the excessive amount you have to take to accomplish anything. I needed almost 2g per day.
11-13-2003, 01:08 PM
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