Nuts Shrinking!!!-----------deca - D*ick

[POWER HOUSE]

IS IT TRUE THAT YOUR BALLS SHRINK TO THE SIZE OF RAISINS?

AND IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A HARD ON???


PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS NOT TRUE

JUST SOME RUMORS I HEARD:chick:

 

[mooch2321]

dude u are bringing that crap to the wrong place, do a little research on steroids before makin a stupid post like this. but yes testicular atrophy will occur when running just about anything aas/ph. and yes if you run deca by itself u probly will get deca d*ck

 

[crazyfool405]

because its a progestin, you may get deca ****, tren ****, can be combated with Dostinex though.

 

[mooch2321]

because its a progestin, you may get deca ****, tren ****, can be combated with Dostinex though.

both tren and deca d*ck can be avoided by pairing with good old test

 

[Perfection300]

I've known ppl who couldn't get it up after being on test. *shutdown*

Nandrolone is very hard on the HPTA.

 

[mooch2321]

I've known ppl who couldn't get it up after being on test. *shutdown*

Nandrolone is very hard on the HPTA.

u mean after they got off the test right???

 

[Perfection300]

u mean after they got off the test right???

Yes, but with 1.5g's + I've heard of some having problems while on too.

 

[crazyfool405]

I've known ppl who couldn't get it up after being on test. *shutdown*

Nandrolone is very hard on the HPTA.

i feel that its ONLY that way because of the Progestin nature of it, if prolactin is controlled while on cycle i do not see a reason why it would be so hard to recover, especially after PCT. people dont realize what high prolactin can do, and the fact that with high prolactin comes elevated estrogen as well.

 

[Medic]

Yes, but with 1.5g's + I've heard of some having problems while on too.

well, imagine what your body is going through putting 1,500mg of test in it along with other hormones im sure. At approx. 600mg of test a week i can **** like a jack rabbit atleast 4 times a day.

i feel that its ONLY that way because of the Progestin nature of it, if prolactin is controlled while on cycle i do not see a reason why it would be so hard to recover, especially after PCT. people dont realize what high prolactin can do, and the fact that with high prolactin comes elevated estrogen as well.

i agree, and the fear should be there before taking these drugs. AND you should know how to battle these problems if you are to take one of these drugs. Caber a few times a week is a good way to help progestin sides. I have never tried deca or tren, but i am about to pin NPP on sunday night. short acting ester should be easier on the body to recover from.

 

[SOLARUS]

adding test to deca or tren is NO guarantee that you wont have erection problems. it's also a great way to get gyno. (i'm not saying dont run T+deca, just be aware)

 

[crazyfool405]

adding test to deca or tren is NO guarantee that you wont have erection problems. it's also a great way to get gyno. (i'm not saying dont run T+deca, just be aware)

the problem that all people see is the high estrogen and high prolactin which causes the problems,

deca is a short acting drug with LONG Lasting metabolites, (year or so)

and technically consider mild like, EQ, Primo, and Winny.

when done right,you will have a very successful cycle and MINIMAL shutdown.

 

[Perfection300]

adding test to deca or tren is NO guarantee that you wont have erection problems. it's also a great way to get gyno. (i'm not saying dont run T+deca, just be aware)

It's not a 100% guarantee , but having synthetic test replacing your natural while being shut down should stop the problem. Lots of users can run deca alone and not experience any sexual side effects. But if your one of those who gets hit hard by nandrolone compounds than adding test will most likely solve the problem.

If you keep progesterone/estrogen under control then it shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Medic]

It's not a 100% guarantee , but having synthetic test replacing your natural while being shut down should stop the problem. Lots of users can run deca alone and not experience any sexual side effects. But if your one of those who gets hit hard by nandrolone compounds than adding test will most likely solve the problem.

If you keep progesterone/estrogen under control then it shouldn't be an issue.

though people do this i would never. I also see that people run EQ alone and i wouldn't do that either. IMO all cycles should have a base of test. I would also always keep my test dose around 200mg higher than my other compounds i am using ... for example deca 400mg week, test 600mg week. Eq might be a slight exception, such as 600mg week EQ, 750mg week test.

 

[Perfection300]

though people do this i would never. I also see that people run EQ alone and i wouldn't do that either. IMO all cycles should have a base of test. I would also always keep my test dose around 200mg higher than my other compounds i am using ... for example deca 400mg week, test 600mg week. Eq might be a slight exception, such as 600mg week EQ, 750mg week test.

This is old parroted mis-informed information.

Test does not have to be the base of your cycle.

Test does not have to be ran higher than the other aas you are using.

If you have enough synthetic test to make up for your natural output sexual side effects are slim if any. along with any other sides you would encounter when not having any testosterone in your body.

 

[crazyfool405]

This is old parroted mis-informed information.

Test does not have to be the base of your cycle.

Test does not have to be ran higher than the other aas you are using.

If you have enough synthetic test to make up for your natural output sexual side effects are slim if any. along with any other sides you would encounter when not having any testosterone in your body.

you can technically run a heavy androgen as the base, with an anabolic and not lose your sex drive

Tren Acetate and EQ are a great example.

ive heard and i qoute "if its real tren youll feel like a porn star"

this is mainly do to its HIGHLY androgenic nature.

 

[LiveWire224]

both tren and deca d*ck can be avoided by pairing with good old test

Yup!:goodpost:

 

[LiveWire224]

adding test to deca or tren is NO guarantee that you wont have erection problems. it's also a great way to get gyno. (i'm not saying dont run T+deca, just be aware)

all comes down to dosage.

If ya dose it right and dont go overboard..ya'll have great gains minus the gyno.

If ya dont know what ur doing, ya'll prob end up with gyno

 

[Medic]

This is old parroted mis-informed information.

Test does not have to be the base of your cycle.

Test does not have to be ran higher than the other aas you are using.

If you have enough synthetic test to make up for your natural output sexual side effects are slim if any. along with any other sides you would encounter when not having any testosterone in your body.

I never said you had to, i just stated what i like to do. I still stand behind my statement, i personally will not run deca, eq, tren, etc etc without a base of test.

 

[Perfection300]

I never said you had to, i just stated what i like to do. I still stand behind my statement, i personally will not run deca, eq, tren, etc etc without a base of test.

You mentioned it like it was truth. I was just making a point that Test can be ran at 200mgs/week while your run say EQ @ 800mgs/week as your base and be fine.

No biggie, I know many others who feel the same way and don't feel comfortable unless the run test higher.

 

[Medic]

You mentioned it like it was truth. I was just making a point that Test can be ran at 200mgs/week while your run say EQ @ 800mgs/week as your base and be fine.

No biggie, I know many others who feel the same way and don't feel comfortable unless the run test higher.

I agree, you can run it this way as well. Notice in the post you highlighted i said IMO to start it out :icon_lol:

happy liftin

 

[SOLARUS]

You mentioned it like it was truth. I was just making a point that Test can be ran at 200mgs/week while your run say EQ @ 800mgs/week as your base and be fine.

um....you attacked Medic for asserting his opinion like it was gospel, then you spit this ball of sh1t out like it's indisputable? please.

the reality is this: if you want to run a progestin in your cycle, it's probably a good idea to run test alongside (although running proviron may be enough - it depends)....in any case, the dose is VERY variable. in one clinical study, participants had to use an average of 300mg of test cyp to exceed reference ranges for total test. i personally wouldnt bother using any less...and obviously - closely monitor gyno/bloating/libido and adjust your doses and ancillaries accordingly.

 

[Ramo machine]

What pct or is good for winny (stana) and would you still get a limp d**** if you dont use a serm or pct cuse im running it fine now