Beginner in need of advice..

[ntrain]

Im 6'2 and 247 pounds.. I would love to drop down to 230 235 and still retain my rep max... I was just wondering what would be good to start off with...

 

[nosnmiveins]

a good diet and training program is all u need. IMO steroids should be used for bulking purposes only ...whether it be a "clean" or "dirty" bulk.

 

[ntrain]

I just started a diet and I play college football... Our strength coach is dead on... I want something for after season to trim down and then bulk up

 

[SoCo4Fun]

You should easily be able to drop that weight by just modifying your diet.

 

[mooch2321]

a good diet and training program is all u need. IMO steroids should be used for bulking purposes only ...whether it be a "clean" or "dirty" bulk.

i have to disagree with this statement nos. aas is a great way to retain muscle while at a caloric deficiency.
(to the op)while im not recomending that u do this, for an experienced bb'er the tren/win/prop cycle is a phenomenal cutter.

 

[bslick69b]

i have to disagree with this statement nos. aas is a great way to retain muscle while at a caloric deficiency.
(to the op)while im not recomending that u do this, for an experienced bb'er the tren/win/prop cycle is a phenomenal cutter.

I AGREE WITH MOOCH,A GOOD CUTTER WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA!

 

[nosnmiveins]

i have to disagree with this statement nos. aas is a great way to retain muscle while at a caloric deficiency.
(to the op)while im not recomending that u do this, for an experienced bb'er the tren/win/prop cycle is a phenomenal cutter.

i dont suggest that for a first timer. i would have agreed with u if this wasnt his first, but his key goal needs to be diet to lose weight...not use steroids

 

[Zero V]

with that he would certainly cut hardcore, then grow some boobs to use as extra padding on the field...

 

[mooch2321]

i dont suggest that for a first timer. i would have agreed with u if this wasnt his first, but his key goal needs to be diet to lose weight...not use steroids

nos i respect ur take on this, but a first cycle does not always have to be a test enanthate 12 week bulk. i am not recomending that the op use steroids, but if hes done his homework and is not morbidly obese then a good prop/winn cut may be exactly what the doctor ordered. i would leave the tren out till yuor second time around tho.