Why do you need higher dose of test when you run deca?

[hyper24]

In another thread of myne a fellow board member posted

"Test is usually run at a 2:1 ratio to Deca. Why? Deca will suppress HPTA as bad as any other drug. Your libido will go to zilch. The test has to be there for it's androgenic effects. Running the doses you are makes no sense and IMO is asking for trouble. If you don't want to run test because of hair loss, I would look into something else other than deca. Maybe EQ. But there again, you want test as a base. You want test in every cycle IM"

Now I now this is gospel, every forum Ive ever been on has said, test must be dosed higher then deca.
But the reasoning given above doesnt make sense to me, heres why I think so.

The body only produces something like 7mg a day of test? (if wrong correct me) so that's 49mg a week of test.

So it doesnt matter if you running 200mg of deca, or 1000mg of deca a week. Your body will most likely be suppressed 100% on either dose.
Now if you add 100mg of test a week, you will still have MORE test than what your body normally produces hence your libido will still be fine. The deca doesnt suppress this test thats being injecting so why does it matter if your running a low dose of test with a high dose of deca?

Im running 500mg of deca and only 100mg of test, as the sides I have gotten from a test cycle 500mg week were really bad, bad acne and hair loss.
So thats why im running my cycle this way, just enough test to keep my body functioning and using deca as the main AAS to promotoe muscle growth.

Many people think this is very wrong, if its true can someone please explain to me why.
(please dont say you wont put on mass with a deca cycle as I had a friend who just completed a deca only cycle who put on 10 kgs (22lbs) yes he was suppressed hence why im throwing in the low test)

[nosnmiveins]

i would atleast use test 250mg/week. also make sure u run the test 2 weeks longer than the deca

[crazyfool405]

in that case tren and deca would be a nice combo,

im gunna pin tren and EQ for 8 weeks (march probably)..... no test base

[holyintellect]

in that case tren and deca would be a nice combo,

im gunna pin tren and EQ for 8 weeks (march probably)..... no test base

I look forward to hearing how this goes, as these are my two all time favs...keep me posted!

holy

[AUTO]

if you are willing to run tren, there is ne reason not to have test in there, if you think the side from test are to much don't use tren. we produce 13-17mg of natural test a day. in test e we absorb 75mgs out of 100 injected. you do the math. I have also ran 250mgs of sus for 8 weeks with no pct just tribulus and zma and i was fine.

[RedwolfWV]

in that case tren and deca would be a nice combo,

im gunna pin tren and EQ for 8 weeks (march probably)..... no test base

Watch for prolactin sides with that combo.

[crazyfool405]

Watch for prolactin sides with that combo.

yea i know all about it, have to help my buddy with it from SD, but im not prone to it, but i do have what i need incase, herbal though,

all proven

[crazyfool405]

I look forward to hearing how this goes, as these are my two all time favs...keep me posted!

holy

im gunna finish my orals soon do PCT then about a week after PCT im gunna run Max out and Reversitol for 50 days about, then when thats over.....

ill let you know

[bb4life]

why run the test 2 weeks longer than decca? my buddy is about to start a 10 week cycle at 500mg test e and 400mg decca per week. the was planning to take those doses all 10 weeks.... please explain.

[AUTO]

why run the test 2 weeks longer than decca? my buddy is about to start a 10 week cycle at 500mg test e and 400mg decca per week. the was planning to take those doses all 10 weeks.... please explain.

pct can not be started , deca has a longer half life

[UnrealMachine]

Watch for prolactin sides with that combo.

word, some strong prolactin from Deca/Tren, increased chance of progestin-gyno too. This combo is usually avoided!

[hyper24]

Still no one has commented about why test should be run higher, does anyone see a problem and have a valid reason for why someone shouldnt run a minimum dose of test say 100mg or 200mg with 500mg of deca.

[animaleater2]

Toward the end of my last cycle I ended up bumping deca up higher than sust and got great results. Don't buy into that crap that test always needs to be higher. If you body can handle the substance then you act accordingly.

[AUTO]

there is no problem, but deca shuts you down hard, if you don't have hcg i wouldn't go near the stuff. other than that it is a very good product.

[nosnmiveins]

if u plan to run test/deca the same length....use HCG

if u plan to run a low dose of test and high dose of deca...use HCG


the main reason for test being run longer is because deca stays in your body a lot longer than test

[mattakaspeedy]

Mate deca and dianabol only cycle has been a claasic for years and that has no test in it. There was a actual study done on deca and it showed that just pinning 100mg per week shut down your natural test production. Once it shut down you cant get any worse.... Just do it :P~

[AUTO]

note. if you want to reduce bloat run the deca 2 weeks longer than the test you will be more cut up but no libido till pct

[AUTO]

Mate deca and dianabol only cycle has been a claasic for years and that has no test in it. There was a actual study done on deca and it showed that just pinning 100mg per week shut down your natural test production. Once it shut down you cant get any worse.... Just do it :P~

deca and dianabol = no libido

[pistonpump]

in that case tren and deca would be a nice combo,

im gunna pin tren and EQ for 8 weeks (march probably)..... no test base

thats really short for EQ i dont generally feel it til week 8.

[pistonpump]

if u plan to run test/deca the same length....use HCG

if u plan to run a low dose of test and high dose of deca...use HCG


the main reason for test being run longer is because deca stays in your body a lot longer than test

not that much longer.....about a week