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    Had bloodworkdone during middle of SD cycle. these are the results. comments?

    cholesterol: 291 ldl: 240
    liver enzymes 65/220
    test: 87 (she said normal is 220+)

    everything else ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldIsMyIdol View Post
    Had bloodworkdone during middle of SD cycle. these are the results. comments?

    cholesterol: 291 ldl: 240
    liver enzymes 65/220
    test: 87 (she said normal is 220+)

    everything else ok
    What were these same numbers before the cycle?

    Test doesn't seem that bad. That's about what you can expect.
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    Sounds like SD results to me. Best of luck bro.
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    I never had baseline tests done. I did explain to my doctor what SD is and how it works and he advised running the tests when I was getting my physical. He wants me to stop and get retested in a month. Do these numbers look bad enough that I should stop now? I only have about 2 weeks left of the cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldIsMyIdol View Post
    I never had baseline tests done. I did explain to my doctor what SD is and how it works and he advised running the tests when I was getting my physical. He wants me to stop and get retested in a month. Do these numbers look bad enough that I should stop now? I only have about 2 weeks left of the cycle.

    I would feel totally out of place telling you not to listen to the doctor. If doc told me to stop I would stop. Best of luck bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldIsMyIdol View Post
    Had bloodworkdone during middle of SD cycle. these are the results. comments?

    cholesterol: 291 ldl: 240
    liver enzymes 65/220
    test: 87 (she said normal is 220+)

    everything else ok
    In regard to your liver enzymes, which level posted is the ALT/AST? What was the rest of your liver function panel (Alk Phos, GGT, Bilirubin?)

    What was your HDL?

    Your cholesterol certainly has taken a hit for sure, but that's been noted to occur to a significance with superdrol. How much longer left in the cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldIsMyIdol View Post
    I never had baseline tests done. I did explain to my doctor what SD is and how it works and he advised running the tests when I was getting my physical. He wants me to stop and get retested in a month. Do these numbers look bad enough that I should stop now? I only have about 2 weeks left of the cycle.

    How long is your cycle? People USUALLY run SD for 3 weeks, so if this is what it looks like after just one week I would stop right away.
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    by mid cycle, i assume you mean two weeks in so here goes:

    i've heard that the 4th week of a SD cycle is more bad than good. many people say their best gains are days 9-14, some can keep gaining until the end of the third week. personally, in my opinion, if you've already gained about 10-15 pounds, jump into PCT and save the rest of the SD for another two week cycle. either way, i wouldn't go over three weeks.
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    LDL was 240. Can't remember which order the liiver enzymes were I will find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prometherion View Post
    How long is your cycle? People USUALLY run SD for 3 weeks, so if this is what it looks like after just one week I would stop right away.
    I have been running it about 3 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldIsMyIdol View Post
    I have been running it about 3 weeks.
    I think it's time to throw the towel in dude. 3 weeks is good for SD anyway. Not much more to gain and with number like that.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetta View Post
    I think it's time to throw the towel in dude. 3 weeks is good for SD anyway. Not much more to gain and with number like that.....
    I think your right. I'm going to quit and use some supps....red yeast rice, milk thistle, niacin, hawthorneberry....and drop some fat. lets see how much I can bring that LDL down =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldIsMyIdol View Post
    I think your right. I'm going to quit and use some supps....red yeast rice, milk thistle, niacin, hawthorneberry....and drop some fat. lets see how much I can bring that LDL down =P

    Yeah drop it now IMO. 3 weeks of SD is enough. Run PCT and support supps and go back for more bloodwork post PCT, everything should be back to normal
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    SD is notoriously bad on HDL. My doctor though my HDL result must have been a lab mistake, as It was 1/5 of the amount measured pre-cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    Sounds like SD results to me. Best of luck bro.
    Yep. Just how harsh it is. I have seen HDL numbers in the single digits(should be above 40).
    Get nolva and do pct. It will help those numbers somewhat. The rest will just take time. That is why I strongly advise guys to take PLENTY of time off between cycles. It takes A LONG time to get numbers back in line. I'm talking 6 months+
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldIsMyIdol View Post
    I think your right. I'm going to quit and use some supps....red yeast rice, milk thistle, niacin, hawthorneberry....and drop some fat. lets see how much I can bring that LDL down =P

    Don't drop all fat. A good Fish Oil sup wouldn't be a bad call right now - S.A.N. Fish Fats is always my first choice. Salmon, Almonds, Natural PB, Olive Oil. Make sure you're getting your EFA's and good fats. This could help to bring those numbers back into line a bit. The worst thing you could do is reduce fat too much right now. Just lay off the KFC, McD's etc.
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    Boosting HDL
    i add ground flax seeds (omega 3s) to my oatmeal in the morning. They cost $3 for a bag at the grocery store and I grind them in my coffee grinder. This seems to be cheaper than buying the oil from a supplement store. (Omega 3s and Omega 6s boost HDL ("good") cholesterol. You can get Omega 3s from flaxseeds, walnuts, salmon, soybeans, halibut)

    Reducing LDL

    The fiber from Oatmeal, oatbran, etc helps remove LDL cholesterol from the blood. When fat is present in the small intestine, bile is released by the liver in order to make the fat capable to be absorbed by the small intestine for energy. Fiber absorbs some of the bile and carries it out of the body. In order for the liver to make new bile, it uses cholesterol which is bile's building block. So make sure you get enough fiber.

    I hope this helps. Good luck
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