I see this is available again... wasn't this banned?
No it has not been banned.:thumbsup:
030508 is the batch number that tested out to that im running it now and logging it,Just curious is this a new batch I know a batch of p-plex tested out at something like 19.2mg phera per cap?
What doses are you running it at?030508 is the batch number that tested out to that im running it now and logging it,
first workout on it starts tomorrow
yeah id be curious to know how you plan to run this link to a log?030508 is the batch number that tested out to that im running it now and logging it,
first workout on it starts tomorrow
I am quite certain this is one of the newer batches where we changed it to 10 mg caps.Just curious is this a new batch I know a batch of p-plex tested out at something like 19.2mg phera per cap?
Sounds good.I am quite certain this is one of the newer batches where we changed it to 10 mg caps.
It was not banned, although it is on the chopping block still as far as we know. The reason it has been out of stock was due to a miscommunication between nutra and CEL.
So with the newer batch you're basically getting half of what you would've gotten with the older batch?I am quite certain this is one of the newer batches where we changed it to 10 mg caps.
So with the newer batch you're basically getting half of what you would've gotten with the older batch?
Go with another brand.NVM everything I checked is 10.I'm glad I still have the original Phera.I believe p-plex was 15mg and they had a batch that tested for 19.2mg but it was always 15mg I believe. So now you only get 10mg oh well:thumbsup:
That is correct. We had always shot for 15 mg/cap... that one batch just came out higher and once capped there isnt much we can do about it.I believe p-plex was 15mg and they had a batch that tested for 19.2mg but it was always 15mg I believe. So now you only get 10mg oh well:thumbsup:
June 24th was they day it was supposed to be voted on or approved or something like that. For some reason the DEA provided no further clarification at all so I think everyone is in limbo right now. We are going to continue to produce P-Plex as long as we legally can.So is the ban still just pending, or is it gone by the wayside? I thought june 20-something was the day it was gonna be all over...
June 24th was they day it was supposed to be voted on or approved or something like that. For some reason the DEA provided no further clarification at all so I think everyone is in limbo right now. We are going to continue to produce P-Plex as long as we legally can.
June 24th was they day it was supposed to be voted on or approved or something like that. For some reason the DEA provided no further clarification at all so I think everyone is in limbo right now. We are going to continue to produce P-Plex as long as we legally can.
They are fairly different compounds. mdrol is highly anabolic yet rather un-androgenic, you are right that it is a dry compound. pplex is a wet compound, but is fairly androgenic. Pplex may arguably have less sides, but it has sides that are androgenic sides that mdrol doesn't have, such as hair loss in some individuals. Gains seem to be similar. Mdrol is derived from masteron, where as pplex is a pheramone.I've been searching and cant find many solo logs of the stuff, I have thoroughly researched m-drol, is p-plex similar? I have read less hard sides with p-plex but wetter gains?
thanks for the excellent information man! It's the androgenic sides of P-plex that scares me a little.They are fairly different compounds. mdrol is highly anabolic yet rather un-androgenic, you are right that it is a dry compound. pplex is a wet compound, but is fairly androgenic. Pplex may arguably have less sides, but it has sides that are androgenic sides that mdrol doesn't have, such as hair loss in some individuals. Gains seem to be similar. Mdrol is derived from masteron, where as pplex is a pheramone.
I've noticed that epistane is huge on this board.You probably won't find many if any phera logs on here.When it first came out people were suggesting that as a first cycle.I've always found it relatively mild as far as sides go.Meaning I've cycled it a couple of times and didn't have alot of sides.I've been searching and cant find many solo logs of the stuff, I have thoroughly researched m-drol, is p-plex similar? I have read less hard sides with p-plex but wetter gains?
I'm running epistane as we speak. I like it... no sides for me, but that is probably because I am not affected by MPB/androgenic allopecia (am I using the right terms?)... anyway, steroids don't seem to have an effect on my hairline yet. Epistane and Pplex arn't too kind to everyone though.I've noticed that epistane is huge on this board.You probably won't find many if any phera logs on here.When it first came out people were suggesting that as a first cycle.I've always found it relatively mild as far as sides go.Meaning I've cycled it a couple of times and didn't have alot of sides.
Also research Pheraplex as it is the same compound - thousands of logs I bet. P-Plex's compound does not actually aromatize so I'm not sure its actually wetter... I found it to be pretty dry myself and I ran it up to 60 mgs/day. I think the majority of the people claiming wet gains may just be eating sloppy trying to bulk up as it does seem to increase your propensity for fat gain.I've been searching and cant find many solo logs of the stuff, I have thoroughly researched m-drol, is p-plex similar? I have read less hard sides with p-plex but wetter gains?
Ah thanks again for the information. Have there been many reports of rebound gyno on this compound when compared to m-drol?Also research Pheraplex as it is the same compound - thousands of logs I bet. P-Plex's compound does not actually aromatize so I'm not sure its actually wetter... I found it to be pretty dry myself and I ran it up to 60 mgs/day. I think the majority of the people claiming wet gains may just be eating sloppy trying to bulk up as it does seem to increase your propensity for fat gain.
Most users report way less sides compared to superdrol. My only side was blood pressure.
Nowhere near as many as M-Drol, but P-Plex does not seem to be anywhere near as suppressive as M-Drol so that is likely why.Ah thanks again for the information. Have there been many reports of rebound gyno on this compound when compared to m-drol?
well that is interesting news, thanks again, I was planning on running m-drol for my next cycle (due to my understanding P-plex was banned) But now it's back, and looking a bit easier to run than m-drol...Nowhere near as many as M-Drol, but P-Plex does not seem to be anywhere near as suppressive as M-Drol so that is likely why.
It couldnt hurt, depends how you dose though. I'd go 30/30/40/40well that is interesting news, thanks again, I was planning on running m-drol for my next cycle (due to my understanding P-plex was banned) But now it's back, and looking a bit easier to run than m-drol...
You need two bottle for a first P-plex cycle?
Same here.I didn't see great gains at 30mg.I will probably go as high as 50mg next time.We will see.It couldnt hurt, depends how you dose though. I'd go 30/30/40/40
30/40/50/5030/30/40/40 for a 200lb person?
Guess thats two bottles isn't it?30/40/50/50
nope, one should do you...well that is interesting news, thanks again, I was planning on running m-drol for my next cycle (due to my understanding P-plex was banned) But now it's back, and looking a bit easier to run than m-drol...
You need two bottle for a first P-plex cycle?
How would you suggest dosing this?nope, one should do you...
who cares if it's banned? its not like the feds are gonna come knocking because you have a banned compound... stock up while you can!
nope, one should do you...
who cares if it's banned? its not like the feds are gonna come knocking because you have a banned compound... stock up while you can!
Um, what batch do you have?How would you suggest dosing this?
I havnt bought it yet, but give me examples in mg's maybe?Um, what batch do you have?
P-plex by CEL (the only brand I recommend) comes in 10mg pills now... I believe it used to be 15mg.I havnt bought it yet, but give me examples in mg's maybe?
Really? Seems severely under dosed to me.P-plex by CEL (the only brand I recommend) comes in 10mg pills now... I believe it used to be 15mg.
You gonna run 4 weeks? Well... it really depends how you react to the compound...
I'd say for a good 4 week run, 10/20/20/30?
You may not have to dose all the way up to thirty if you keep making gains at 20mg.
Cant you attach the link to the above mentioned statement.The ban was 'officially proposed' as of the 24th of June. According to Rick Collins in the latest issue of MD, a ban if approved is likely to actually go into effect either 60,90,or 120 days after the proposal date. Take this for what it's worth, but if it proves true we'd have until either Aug 23rd, Sept 22, or Oct 22nd to purchase P-Plex, Pro-Dienolone, & Boldione.
A CEL Rep (Usf97j4x4) just got done recommending 30/30/40/40 or 30/40/50/50 for a 200 lb person... Why would you run it @ 10/20/20/30?
He can always decrease the dosage if it is too much. I'd prefer to start higher and decrease down rather than start too low and end up finishing the cycle before you increase to your "sweet spot."I think Usf likes high doses of it 30/40/50/50 is a high dose for a first time pplex and pr.obably not necessary
He can always decrease the dosage if it is too much. I'd prefer to start higher and decrease down rather than start too low and end up finishing the cycle before you increase to your "sweet spot."
I have "pushed" the envelope on every compound i've ran except superdrol. I don't think the 30-40 range is too high at all, especially at his size (assuming supporting supplements are in check).
If you've ran Halo or Superdrol there is a distinct "on" feeling, some may write it off as anxiety but I have noticed it with some compounds and NOT with others.I agree. I would run it 30-40. I just thought 50mg was quite high for a first time at PP. But I wont disagree bro, I havent tried PP myself
I've not cycled much. I didn't get any "on" feeling from Epi either. I am 3 days in SD now @ 20mg and not got any sense of on feeling yet, but it's still early daysIf you've ran Halo or Superdrol there is a distinct "on" feeling, some may write it off as anxiety but I have noticed it with some compounds and NOT with others.
P-Plex did not have that "on" feeling for me at all, nor did Bold or Epi to give some other examples. P-Plex is a smooth compound, you take it, you train/eat, you gain, you dont feel like your jacked up or anything (I get all-day pumps on halo).When you get into the higher doses things like high blood pressure, hair loss, lethargy and difficulty sleeping are usually what end up making people drop the dose down.
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