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Methyl-1-test and cycle lengths

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    Methyl-1-test and cycle lengths


    Ok Ive been reading all the threads about m1t the last few days and theres one thing that seems to be going back and forth.

    When doing a 2on/2off/2on cycle does one need to take clomid int he 2off weeks between the 2on weeks? Will the HPTA be shutdown after only 2 weeks of methyl-1-test @ 10-20mg/day?

    I'm asking this because Im planning to do a cycle like this in december with methyl-1-test @ 10mg day.

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    My understanding is that it is not necessary. 2 weeks isn't long enough for your natural test production to shut down.
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    2 weeks at 10mg. You should be fine.
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    I personally plan to use up some 6-oxo I have sitting around in my weeks in between methyl 1-test cycles. I figure better safe than sorry, and will dose 6 caps a day for one week immediately following a two week m1t cycle, during which I plan to ingest 20mg a day.
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    yeah i would definitely use some sort of anti-e for the 2 off part.. i mean heck it doesnt hurt to do so.. im prolly gonna stick to 20mg of nolva since ill be on the nolva the entire cycle on and off (im predisposed to gyno)
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    It was my understanding that the methyl1-test won't aromitize at all, so wouldn't that mean that there are no worries of gyno?
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    yeah i forgot to add in that im running 4-ad with it
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    Oh well that makes more sense.
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    sifu i did lots of research on that and there is something called prolactin gyno that you can get on methyl 1test. just like you can on tren. i guess nolva and clomid won't affect it either. you need something called winny it sounds like. i guess this type of gyno is fairly rare though. i might not have ALL my facts straight on this. if any of the old regs can help me out here it would be appreciated.

    http://www.musclechemistry.com/showthread/t-18186.html
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    1-test dick


    This is a warning to all you guys who are thinking about using M-1-test, I just a had long night with the girlfirend. I had to talk for hours on how everything was good and OK. M-1-test can give you wobbily-wobbily down there. And for a young normally hard guy it can make for a very painful night. Of conversation.

    I would call what was going on with me a temp 1-test depression, with limp dick side effects. Thank god I end my two week cycle today. Next cycle I will definatly use either 4-ad or Liq V or C.
    This is a warning for all bros...

    M-1-TEST CAN CAUSE LIMP DICK!!!

    Now you've been advised.

    Peace
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    i dont see why anyone wouldnt use 4-ad or test anywyas... the lethargy is unbearable.. well it was for me even when i was taking a 2:1 ratio of 1-test:4-ad... ill never do that again
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    Re: 1-test dick


    Originally posted by motiv8er
    This is a warning to all you guys who are thinking about using M-1-test, I just a had long night with the girlfirend. I had to talk for hours on how everything was good and OK. M-1-test can give you wobbily-wobbily down there. And for a young normally hard guy it can make for a very painful night. Of conversation.

    I would call what was going on with me a temp 1-test depression, with limp dick side effects. Thank god I end my two week cycle today. Next cycle I will definatly use either 4-ad or Liq V or C.
    This is a warning for all bros...

    M-1-TEST CAN CAUSE LIMP DICK!!!

    Now you've been advised.

    Peace
    You poor poor bro. my deepest sympathies too you. that has got to be the worst side that i have ever heard of anyone experiencing (the all night conversation) i mean.

    god speed,
    smike319
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    I actually had this problem last night..... let's just say my girlfriend wasn't very happ, lol

    I kind of expected this with a M1T only cycle, but I figured I'd give one a run anyway. 2 week cycles seem to be right for this one, coudln't imagine going much longer esp. if using only M1T.

    I may do another 2 week cycle of M1T alone then add in some test (with nolva for bloat) to balance things, we'll see how it goes.
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    well I'm single atm so thats why im leaning towards straight m1t as opposed to m1t with test or 4ad
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    Well I haven't had any problems with the wobbly, actually the opposite effect for me. Same with lethargy, I guess it does everyone different. Corey that is interesting, I had no idea it could possibly cause gyno. But ya, no limp dick problems for me.
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    i dunno about you guys - but my labido was way up on the M1t.
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    Me too.
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    i can see it now. let's look into the majic ball and see what we find, wait i think i see something..........yep i can, it's everone on this board tired and old, smell like citrus, poor from all the divorces and breakups, and got weiners that look like well, weiners that have been on the grill 2hours too long and worthless as a bump on a pickel from none use.
    But built like a brick ****house!
    man i can't wait
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    Well as a married man, overworked by the military, and a new baby in the house. My libido in the shower is up.
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    Originally posted by jweave23
    I actually had this problem last night..... let's just say my girlfriend wasn't very happ, lol

    I kind of expected this with a M1T only cycle, but I figured I'd give one a run anyway. 2 week cycles seem to be right for this one, coudln't imagine going much longer esp. if using only M1T.

    I may do another 2 week cycle of M1T alone then add in some test (with nolva for bloat) to balance things, we'll see how it goes.

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    Originally posted by Jarconis



     

    No comments from the peanut gallery, thanks

    I'm kind of leveling off I think in that dept. now....not super soldeir but not limp noodle either. I have some cialis I'm going to use though to give things a little boost
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    After tons of deliberation I've decided that I'll be running m1t for two weeks at 10mg/day. I'm cutting right now, and looking for a little added boost, and the m1t should be just the thing for that. The side effects at 20mg for many users sounds pretty severe, and for once I decided to take the safer path instead of jumping headlong into something. I'll be cycling for two weeks, and then taking two weeks off. Depending on results I'll be running another two week cycle after the off period, either at 10mg/day again or bumping up to 20 mg/day if results are unsatisfactory.

    Is 5mg twice a day likely to garner much in the way of results? I can't recall anyone keeping a log of 10mg/day as of yet. And one last thing, with m1t is it best to take the tabs with food or on an empty stomach?
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    The tabs are 10mg each so it would be kind of hard to take 5mg at a time don't you think?
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    Well good news, didn't need cialis last night and the soldier was ready for battle
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    Sifu, I'm hoping the tabs are going to be easy enough to cut in half. Hopefully it won't lead to them dissintegrating on the spot, but they look to be pressed well enough for easy halving as far as I can see.
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    Well they are pressed well. I wouldn't attempt it though. I am on 20mg a day, and I love it. Jweave I am getting the same as you for libido. No problems with my soldier.
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    Porkchop )JWEAVE)


    Did you do anything for post cycle? How long before the boys bounced back? I took three Stamina RX this weekend and I think I rebuilt her spine. But I want to make sure I am lining myself up to do it without chems. But I'll do anything to avoid having another sleepless night of conversation!!

    Peace
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    Well I am on right now. But you want to do the post without chems. WHY? I am going to do clomid, for post cycle, no reason not to. If I wasn't though, I would do 6-OXO, tons of flax, also trib, and Maca. Maybe some ZMA, but by the time I bought all of that I could buy three cycles worth of Clomid
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    Sifu


    Bone her w/o the cialis spiked Stamina RX. I'm clomiding to Christmas and back!!!

    Peace
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    Looks like I'll be doing 2on/2off/2on @ 10md ed
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    Originally posted by max silver
    Is 5mg twice a day likely to garner much in the way of results? I can't recall anyone keeping a log of 10mg/day as of yet. And one last thing, with m1t is it best to take the tabs with food or on an empty stomach?
    I don't think splitting the dose up is going to have any positive effects.  I don't know when the best time to take it is though.  I would assume if you can handle it to take it on an empty stomach.

    Anyone?

    BTW You guys talk about limp dick being the worst side ever.  I don't know about that.  I would take that over bitch tits any day of the week.
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    I'm starting to wonder if even shorter cycles of M1T might be appropriate. For Bulking I'm thinking that maybe I'll set a weight goal of around 10 pounds, eat like a maniac, reach it ASAP in 10 days or less hopefully then go off to avoid shutdown. Since the M1T has a faily lengthy half life it might still be active in your system for another day or so post cycle.

    A lot of people's gains seem to hover right around 10 pounds in 10-12 days then plateau. 10 pounds is great, no need to get greedy and go longer or up the dosages.
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    Maybe I missed it but why are you assuming the half life is long. No one's really knows.
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    True no one does know exactly but the whole point of methylization was to increase 1-T resistance to liver breakdown. Maybe you get an extra day post cycle, maybe not.

    But in any case it's not the emphasis of I was shooting for. I'm simply saying that maybe we should look at M1T cycles as a quick 5-10 pounds as quickly as possible then off. Maybe there's no need, in many cases to extend the cycle to 14 or more days.

    It just a different way of looking at cycling..rather than saying "I'm on for three weeks, off for three" I'm thinking of it as "I'm on for 5 pounds then off so I can insure that I keep those pounds".

    This would of course take extreme discipline as we all are reluctant to stop a cycle when we're seeing gains.

    Just a thought, flame away if you like.
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    Ok well Ill be starting my cycle as soon as my M1T arrives, here's my game plan.

    My stats are:

    176lbs
    10% bf

    Length 10-14 days on then two weeks off and possibly back on for another 10-14 days.

    I'll be eating big calories, 4000-4500+ clean

    10mg ed
    I'll be using NAC/Milk Thistle for liver protection.

    I'm also thinking about making using the rest of my T-Heat as everybody seems to be leaning out while on this compound.

    My work shirt is getting damn tight on me, hopefully after this cycle my boss will say 'jesus its time for a new shirt'
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    Originally posted by bioman
    True no one does know exactly but the whole point of methylization was to increase 1-T resistance to liver breakdown. Maybe you get an extra day post cycle, maybe not.

    But in any case it's not the emphasis of I was shooting for. I'm simply saying that maybe we should look at M1T cycles as a quick 5-10 pounds as quickly as possible then off. Maybe there's no need, in many cases to extend the cycle to 14 or more days.

    It just a different way of looking at cycling..rather than saying "I'm on for three weeks, off for three" I'm thinking of it as "I'm on for 5 pounds then off so I can insure that I keep those pounds".

    This would of course take extreme discipline as we all are reluctant to stop a cycle when we're seeing gains.

    Just a thought, flame away if you like.
    True, although it would require a lot of discipline for someone who is gaining a pound a day to say, "OK, that is all the farther I am going this time." My guess is that we would all like that 11th pound as long as we are not experiencing sides.

    As a side comment, it seems like just as many cycles of M1T are being ended due to sides (back pain, etc.) as are being ended because gains started to plateau.
  

  
 

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