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    Chicago Bears, Brendon Ayanbadejo, Obafemi Ayanbadejo, National Football League - CBS SportsLine.com

    Bears FB Ayanbadejo suspended four games


    Aug. 9, 2007
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    LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- Chicago Bears fullback Obafemi Ayanbadejo said he might sue the maker of an over-the-counter supplement after the NFL suspended him for the first four regular-season games without pay for violating the league's policy on anabolic steroids and related substances on Thursday.
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    The suspension begins Sept. 1 and ends following the game against Detroit on Sept. 30. He is eligible to participate in preseason games and practices.

    Ayanbadejo insisted he did not take steroids, did not knowingly "infringe on the rules of the NFL performance-enhancing drug policy" and that he had passed "60-plus drug tests and never failed one."

    "I've never had a problem at any level -- collegiately, in the NFL," he said.

    Ayanbadejo said he used a product called Max LMG, which decreases estrogen levels and boosts testosterone, for three weeks in January. He got tested that month, learned in April that he had failed and had an appeal hearing a few days before training camp opened.

    "I am going to pursue civil action against the company," he said.

    Chicago's Obafemi Ayanbadejo claims he passed '60-plus drug tests and never failed one.' (Getty Images)
    Chicago's Obafemi Ayanbadejo claims he passed '60-plus drug tests and never failed one.' (Getty Images)
    But while threatening to sue, Ayanbadejo also pointed a finger at himself. He said he should have sent a sample to the league for evaluation before using the product. He also said the punishment was too harsh and that the NFL's arbitrators should have more authority to reduce it if a player simply made an honest mistake.

    "We're not idiots," said Ayanbadejo, entering his ninth NFL season and first with the Bears. "We can, for the most part, figure out when a guy's being genuine, if his story holds up -- which mine does. When a guy's getting a bad rap, which I think I am. We should give the arbitrator the ability to lessen the sentence when I had clean drug tests November, December, February, March, April and I took the supplement in January."

    While the failed test and appeal hung over him, another issue arose on June 5.

    The Arizona Cardinals waived him after three seasons -- because of the test result, according Ayanbadejo. The Bears, apparently, had no such reservations and signed him to a one-year deal a week later.

    "He was up front right away," coach Lovie Smith said after practice on Thursday night. "He told us what happened, and we took it from there."

    The move to Chicago -- where he was born -- reunited the 32-year-old Ayanbadejo with his brother Brendon, a linebacker who was his teammate with the Miami Dolphins in 2003. Brendon Ayanbadejo, who's a year younger, said his brother told him about the failed test around 2 a.m. one morning while they were vacationing in Las Vegas.

    "I was really upset," he said. "But we're just glad that it's over with. We're glad that he has an answer and he knows where he stands now. ... We're moving on. We're trying to put it behind us. But all the time leading up until we got the answer from the NFL and fighting the appeal, it was a lot more stressful."

    Obafemi Ayanbadejo insisted he's not a cheater.

    "My intent was not to do anything wrong," he said. "I did not take a steroid. I would never do anything to embarrass my brother, my family, my kids, my friends, my teammates. It's unfortunate that this is what got me released from Arizona."

    Ayanbadejo has 513 yards rushing, 885 receiving and eight touchdowns in his career, but he has specialized in special teams play.

    "I do support the rules," he said. "I just have a little problem with the way they were executed. I wish somebody could come in and use reason and say, 'Hey, you know what? There's a difference between anabolic steroids that someone's injecting' and someone taking a supplement like I took."
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    He's just another idiot that uses something without knowing what it is. ALRI never hid the fact that MaxLMG as a designer steroid.
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    I would of added a line in there about possibly testing positive in drug testing in case someone tried to do what is about to be done.
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    J, Hindsight is 20/20
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    That it is but it wasn't something that couldn't be found on many other supplements of the same time frame. We're knocking the football player for not automatically assuming he'd test positive but it doesn't state anything like that on their description but it does make mention on how it doesn't fall into the banned substances.
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    Guy probably has the IQ somewhere near Ronnie Coleman :\
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    That it is but it wasn't something that couldn't be found on many other supplements of the same time frame. We're knocking the football player for not automatically assuming he'd test positive but it doesn't state anything like that on their description but it does make mention on how it doesn't fall into the banned substances.
    He is risking enough money every year that he should take every single supplement (including creatine, fish oil, etc.) to the NFL and make sure it is okay.

    I personally won't place any blame on the company for this one. Even though they could have had that warning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bLacKjAck. View Post
    Guy probably has the IQ somewhere near Ronnie Coleman :\
    I'm sure colemen is a prety smart guy.
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    As long as a company accurately states ingredients on a label, screw those who can't do their own homework. Warning on the label? If a company included all possible negative outcomes from taking any product, it would take sheets and sheets of paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShakesAllDay View Post
    As long as a company accurately states ingredients on a label, screw those who can't do their own homework. Warning on the label? If a company included all possible negative outcomes from taking any product, it would take sheets and sheets of paper.
    True, but I understand Jay's arguement because this would be directed towards the primary user. Athletes are the number 1 users of supplements. Most of which are subject to testing.
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    He's responsible for taking the Max LMG w/out doing any research. Everyone knew it was a pro-hormone. I can see his point if he took say a protein product that was contaminated with PH's but that's not the case. He screwed up and he doesn't want to take responsibility which seems to be the trend in society among people in the spot light. He's just a slightly above average lead blocker anyway. It's not as if he's the missing link the Bears need to win the Super Bowl LOL.
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    A lot of guys look for supps that will enchance their strength/endurance etc but will not make them test hot for banned substances. While you and I may know or expect certain things from these supplements, not everyone does. Even doctors that are very well educated still think creatine and protein are unhealthy.

    Just think about that for a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    A lot of guys look for supps that will enchance their strength/endurance etc but will not make them test hot for banned substances. While you and I may know or expect certain things from these supplements, not everyone does. Even doctors that are very well educated still think creatine and protein are unhealthy.

    Just think about that for a bit.
    J, while this is true, every NFL, MLB, etc. player is told that with every supplement they take they need to bring it to the league and ahve it tested before they consume it.

    This was his responsibility in which he neglected.

    ...it'd be nice to hear from a rep from ALRI for a status...
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    I'm not trying to place the blame on ALRI as much as i'm trying to let people know that a lot of consumers actually do not know how a lot of these products work. Just because they are high paid doesn't mean they are getting all the proper information. This guy could be lying his ass off but i think we give these high profile people far too much credit because of their income over the average person.
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    All good points, but the problem is the ban. In 2005 we quit manufacturing all pHs because we knew there was a ban coming.. In early 2006 all tested organizations were made aware of this.. Eas to my knowledge is the only APPROVED supplement that NFL players can take.. So this gentleman made a different choice.. I am sorry he chose to take something that was not approved by the organization he chose to play for...

    It all goes back to be responsible for your own actions.. I feel the same way about cigarette companies getting sued Why should they have to pay a dime to someones family who chose to smoke.

    We pulled our entire PH line well before the ban took effect due to this kind of negativity. BTW the player tested positive for Nandrolone not Max LMG.. Just my two cents though

    If you are in an organization that puts restrictions on you it is up to you to either follow the rules or pay the consequences of your actions.. Unfortunately with EAS being the only approved NFL supplement this was not the case.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    I'm not trying to place the blame on ALRI as much as i'm trying to let people know that a lot of consumers actually do not know how a lot of these products work. Just because they are high paid doesn't mean they are getting all the proper information. This guy could be lying his ass off but i think we give these high profile people far too much credit because of their income over the average person.
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    I can see your points but I don't think this is in the same line as cigarettes. Accountability needs to be there for the companies as well as freedom from frivolous lawsuits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAVEN View Post
    All good points, but the problem is the ban. In 2005 we quit manufacturing all pHs because we knew there was a ban coming.. In early 2006 all tested organizations were made aware of this.. Eas to my knowledge is the only APPROVED supplement that NFL players can take.. So this gentleman made a different choice.. I am sorry he chose to take something that was not approved by the organization he chose to play for...

    It all goes back to be responsible for your own actions.. I feel the same way about cigarette companies getting sued Why should they have to pay a dime to someones family who chose to smoke.

    We pulled our entire PH line well before the ban took effect due to this kind of negativity. BTW the player tested positive for Nandrolone not Max LMG.. Just my two cents though

    If you are in an organization that puts restrictions on you it is up to you to either follow the rules or pay the consequences of your actions.. Unfortunately with EAS being the only approved NFL supplement this was not the case.
    good points.
    I think he was using steroids and knew damn well, he just chose this to blame it on and hopefully he could get out of it by looking ignorant to it. Its a cop out.
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    Couldnt agree with you more... However he still chose to take a supplement that was not approved by his tested organization... Whereas I can be sympathetic on one side, but blaming us for his problems with the NFL is logical as he was given his criteria to follow by them and he evidently did not follow it.. I totally understand what you are saying and ALL companies should be accountable to a degree as all consumers should be responsbile for what they do as well,.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    I can see your points but I don't think this is in the same line as cigarettes. Accountability needs to be there for the companies as well as freedom from frivolous lawsuits.
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    lol My dad use to coach college ball and even those guys are monitored pretty damn close..

    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    good points.
    I think he was using steroids and knew damn well, he just chose this to blame it on and hopefully he could get out of it by looking ignorant to it. Its a cop out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    good points.
    I think he was using steroids and knew damn well, he just chose this to blame it on and hopefully he could get out of it by looking ignorant to it. Its a cop out.
    That's exactly what I think. "I didn't take any steroids, but I bought this at the supplement store." Yeah right
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    wasn't ALRI a "responsible company" when they stopped producing it?
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    I think for an NFLer, he should definitely be responsible. These guys have been around supps and testing for a while. I agree with Jay, though, that not everyone knows that some of these supps could get them in trouble, such as some 18yo HS student who justed started lifting and takes a supp someone recommends to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAVEN View Post

    It all goes back to be responsible for your own actions.. I feel the same way about cigarette companies getting sued Why should they have to pay a dime to someones family who chose to smoke.

    the player tested positive for Nandrolone not Max LMG.. J
    ...I wonder how that nandrolone got into his sample?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicrhino View Post
    ...I wonder how that nandrolone got into his sample?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    I'm sure colemen is a prety smart guy.
    lol yeah coleman is actually really intelligent he just gets a bad rap cause of how he sounds
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    agreed.. but my god take a look at the bod... he has to know wtf he is talking about

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    lol yeah coleman is actually really intelligent he just gets a bad rap cause of how he sounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAVEN View Post
    agreed.. but my god take a look at the bod... he has to know wtf he is talking about
    haha and lets see how many people hae the balls to disrespect him in his face.... i for one would **** my pants if i pissed him off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAVEN View Post
    agreed.. but my god take a look at the bod... he has to know wtf he is talking about
    Right? If you have the sense to get your diet, training and gear down to a "T" like that, you have to have quite a bit of intelligence.
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    What an idiot. A little word people need to learn is accountability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW View Post
    haha and lets see how many people hae the balls to disrespect him in his face.... i for one would **** my pants if i pissed him off!
    dude im sure just about all of us would......but then again i would probably knock his big ass out cold before he could lift that 50lb arm.
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    I guess nothing ever came of this...does anybody know what exactly he tested positive for? Some reports say it was merely a banned anti-estrogen, but other claims were that that positive was from Max LMG...just wondering what LMG tested positive for...???

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    LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- Chicago Bears fullback Obafemi Ayanbadejo said he might sue the maker of an over-the-counter supplement after the NFL suspended him for the first four regular-season games without pay for violating the league's policy on anabolic steroids and related substances on Thursday...
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    I dont understand on what grounds he is suing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    I guess nothing ever came of this...does anybody know what exactly he tested positive for? Some reports say it was merely a banned anti-estrogen, but other claims were that that positive was from Max LMG...just wondering what LMG tested positive for...???
    My guess is a deca or tren metabolite, since its in the progestin family its likely to convert to a lot of the same stuff.

    When they perform a steroid test they test for abnormal levels of those metabolites also - thats how they can test for long periods of time after the drug was ingested - some of those metabolites have a really long half life.
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    Yeah, I assumed that it was metabolites of nandrolone, but that's merely what it was...an assumption...I guess nobody knows...
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    I would be interested as well. The last article I read was that he took responsibility for what he had done when the NFL basically made him. He only got like a 4 game suspension.. But I never heard exactly what he tested dirty for.

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    Yeah, I assumed that it was metabolites of nandrolone, but that's merely what it was...an assumption...I guess nobody knows...
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    Some reports claimed it was a banned anti-estrogen...doesn't sound like Max LMG to me, but I believe that's what Ayanbadejo claimed he tested positive from...who knows!?!
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