2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

[The Solution]

2016 is over,
The draft is coming up, NFL Trades, Free Agency, and the upcoming season.



Kicking it off:

Seattle Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett has withdrawn from a group of NFL players planning to visit Israel next week.
Myles Garrett, projected to be the No. 1 overall pick in this year's NFL draft, says he won't be attending the event (Thats ridiculous IMO)

Some History:
25 Years Ago Today: The Atlanta Falcons trade a quarterback named Brett Favre to the Green Bay Packers.

 

[jswain34]

Why is it ridiculous for Garrett to want to watch the draft at home with his friends and family?

 

[The Solution]

Why is it ridiculous for Garrett to want to watch the draft at home with his friends and family?

If you know you are going #1. You would think you would want to be present for the NFL Draft and be honored with the commissioner on stage. I can almost guarentee its a free trip for him and some of his close friends/family memebers.

i Know Mariota did it when he got drafted to TN and stayed home in Hawaii. I would just think on these guys big day getting into the NFL which is a dream come true for them they would want to be there. At least in my perception.

Family does come first, but its getting ludicrous that college football players are sitting out bowl games in prep for the columbine or not showing up to events of them getting drafted into the NFL for "personal reasons". Just my stance.

 

[jswain34]

2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

If you know you are going #1. You would think you would want to be present for the NFL Draft and be honored with the commissioner on stage. I can almost guarentee its a free trip for him and some of his close friends/family memebers.

i Know Mariota did it when he got drafted to TN and stayed home in Hawaii. I would just think on these guys big day getting into the NFL which is a dream come true for them they would want to be there. At least in my perception.

Family does come first, but its getting ludicrous that college football players are sitting out bowl games in prep for the columbine or not showing up to events of them getting drafted into the NFL for "personal reasons". Just my stance.

Fair enough. I have a differing opinion but can respect that. And I hope they arent skipping bowl games for columbine.... I think that if your team isn't playing for a big bowl and you dont care about disrespecting your program and teammates so much to the point where you feel like it's worth sitting out the game, then thats your right. I completely understand why some people would do such given the chance for a big injury that could be a huge detriment to their draft position and financially on any given play.

 

[The Solution]

Fair enough. I have a differing opinion but can respect that. And I hope they arent skipping bowl games for columbine.... I think that if your team isn't playing for a big bowl and you dont care about disrespecting your program and teammates so much to the point where you feel like it's worth sitting out the game, then thats your right. I completely understand why some people would do such given the chance for a big injury that could be a huge detriment to their draft position and financially on any given play.

Agree with this too.
But lets also say this.. Do star players sit out of games vs teams they know they are going to blow out? Every conference has those teams where they win by 30-40 points but yet the star players still play. Any game and any play is the risk of an injury.

Bowl games are great chances for NFL Scouts to also look at these players when playing in better competition. Compared to teams they will destroy by 3-4+ touchdowns.

Again we each have our own opinion. I would rather see them play. You have supported a team for 2-3-4 years, go out and finish what you started in your final game with that college.

 

[Woody]

Agree with this too.
But lets also say this.. Do star players sit out of games vs teams they know they are going to blow out? Every conference has those teams where they win by 30-40 points but yet the star players still play. You know your going to win, it is just as much of a risk of an injury as sitting out a bowl game.

Bowl games are great chances for NFL Scouts to also look at these players when playing in better competition.

Again we each have a good opinon. I would rather see them play. You have supported a team for 2-3-4 years, go out and finish what you started.

Nick Chubb, Jaylon Smith, Todd Gurley, Marcus Lattimore, Ja Clowney.. etc

 

[The Solution]

Nick Chubb, Jaylon Smith, Todd Gurley, Marcus Lattimore, Ja Clowney.. etc

Speaking of Smith
How do you see him with the Cowboys next year now that he will be cleared to play after sitting out with his injury?

 

[Woody]

Speaking of Smith
How do you see him with the Cowboys next year now that he will be cleared to play after sitting out with his injury?

He's posted drills with him cutting and stuff. Apparently his nerves are doing well too.

 

[bloodnthunder]

If you know you are going #1. You would think you would want to be present for the NFL Draft and be honored with the commissioner on stage. I can almost guarentee its a free trip for him and some of his close friends/family memebers.

i Know Mariota did it when he got drafted to TN and stayed home in Hawaii. I would just think on these guys big day getting into the NFL which is a dream come true for them they would want to be there. At least in my perception.

Family does come first, but its getting ludicrous that college football players are sitting out bowl games in prep for the columbine or not showing up to events of them getting drafted into the NFL for "personal reasons". Just my stance.

Maybe he's just not that excited over going to Cleveland lol

 

[jimbuick]

Maybe he's just not that excited over going to Cleveland lol

Who could blame him?

 

[jimbuick]

On Peyton Manning, one player's opinion:

To me,*he's [Peyton] the greatest of all-time.

So when you watch the best and you're able to learn from the best, hopefully that helps me get better.

Without Google, can anyone guess who said this?

Note: not trying to rekindle the argument, just sharing an old interview I recently stumbled upon.

 

[jswain34]

Im gonna guess Luck

 

[jimbuick]

Im gonna guess Luck

Negative ghostrider.

 

[bloodnthunder]

Not Brock is it

 

[jimbuick]

Not Brock is it

Nope. I was waiting to see if someone guessed him since it seems like something he would say.

 

[Woody]

On Peyton Manning, one player's opinion:



Without Google, can anyone guess who said this?

Note: not trying to rekindle the argument, just sharing an old interview I recently stumbled upon.

Brady IIRC

 

[jimbuick]

Hint: He is a starter for another team.

 

[jimbuick]

Brady IIRC

That's it!

 

[rob112]

About players skipping out on draft night...we live in the age of entitlement boys

 

[bloodnthunder]

A starter??? Peyton had the back up scrub in Indy then in den he had osweiler, tebow don't count bc he was let go when Peyton got there. Not Brock so who was his backup that first year

 

[jimbuick]

It was back in 2011 when he was being interviewed about a NFL top 100 list that ranked him as #1 and Manning as #2.

 

[bloodnthunder]

Oh that makes sense then lol

 

[bloodnthunder]

I was about to try and delve into who backed him up fir the vols. Thanks k god someone got it b4 I tried thinking. Ack that far.

 

[Woody]

I was about to try and delve into who backed him up fir the vols. Thanks k god someone got it b4 I tried thinking. Ack that far.

I remember the interview vaguely. Thought it was a nice thing for Brady to say.

 

[jimbuick]

I remember the interview vaguely. Thought it was a nice thing for Brady to say.

I wasn't sure anyone was going to guess it. I was just going to answer before I clock in for work lol.

 

[jimbuick]

Superbowl trivia: In the SB era, only 2 quarterbacks have ever won the Lombardi with bottom 10 defenses (by points allowed). Anyone think they can guess who those two are?

 

[rob112]

2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

Peyton and Brees?

 

[MidwestBeast]

sub'd for foozeball

 

[jimbuick]

Peyton and Brees?

I thought for sure you would have this, but no. Brees is an honorable mention, he won with the 20th ranked defense.

 

[Woody]

Peyton and Favre

 

[Woody]

A person with knowledge says Romo wants to play in Houston and isn't wanting to be paid like a top 5 QB.

Texans Sign Romo, an OG, draft an OL, OT, and some DT depth. Instant contenders

 

[jimbuick]

Peyton and Favre

Wow, I'm really surprised that you missed it too!

Favre had the #1 O and D for his 96 Superbowl.

 

[Woody]

Wow, I'm really surprised that you missed it too!

Favre had the #1 O and D for his 96 Superbowl.

I knew he had the #1 O but I couldn't remember his D that well. Had no idea it was ranked top 10

 

[Woody]

2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

Oh. Wait. 2011 Giants were like 28 in defense. But they were super hot during playoffs which skews it for me

 

[rob112]

Oh so the Manning brothers?! Lol

 

[jimbuick]

Yep. Eli with the 25th and Peyton with the 23rd.

 

[rob112]

Has there ever been a better sports family? I feel like I see it more on basketball, but I can't think of a family that has succeeded like them.

 

[Woody]

Yep. Eli with the 25th and Peyton with the 23rd.

To be fair, Giants were playing top 10 defense in playoffs.

 

[MidwestBeast]

Has there ever been a better sports family? I feel like I see it more on basketball, but I can't think of a family that has succeeded like them.

Curry's in basketball. Plumlee's in basketball. Fielder's in baseball. Griffey's in baseball. Venus and Serena in tennis. Molina's, Alou's and Alomar's in baseball.

edit: not saying any of those are better; but Venus and Serena are probably the only ones hardware wise

 

[rob112]

Curry's in basketball. Plumlee's in basketball. Fielder's in baseball. Griffey's in baseball. Venus and Serena in tennis. Molina's, Alou's and Alomar's in baseball.

edit: not saying any of those are better; but Venus and Serena are probably the only ones hardware wise

Great call on some of those. Especially the Tennis ladies

 

[jimbuick]

Eli is also the only QB to win with both his offensive and defensive rankings being outside of the top 10. (14th and 17th in 2007)

Joe Namaths Jets were close (16th and 10th in 68) as were Flaccos Ravens (10th and 12th in 2012). Elis second SB win was almost in this same category with the 25th ranked D and 9th ranked O.

 

[Woody]

Eli is also the only QB to win with both his offensive and defensive rankings being outside of the top 10. (14th and 17th in 2007)

Joe Namaths Jets were close (16th and 10th in 68) as were Flaccos Ravens (10th and 12th in 2012). Elis second SB win was almost in this same category with the 25th ranked D and 9th ranked O.

Well I think this ends the debate. Eli Manning is the goat

 

[jimbuick]

Well I think this ends the debate. Eli Manning is the goat

GITOAT (Greatest Interception Thrower of all Time)

 

[Woody]

GITOAT (Greatest Interception Thrower of all Time)

No that's Brett Favre.

 

[jimbuick]

Well I think this ends the debate. Eli Manning is the goat

That season (2007) you guys had the #4 ranked rushing attack in the NFL. 21st ranked passing attack is what brought you down lol.

 

[Woody]

We released Victor Cruz. Sad to see him go. Hoping he does well on another team outside of NFCE

 

[MidwestBeast]

Any other Bears fans out there I can commiserate with?

Thankfully, I'm not a diehard fan at all, so I can joke about it lol.

 

[Woody]

Any other Bears fans out there I can commiserate with?

Thankfully, I'm not a diehard fan at all, so I can joke about it lol.

All diehard fans have committed suicide or changed teams in the Cutler era lol

 

[cubsfan815]

Any other Bears fans out there I can commiserate with?

Thankfully, I'm not a diehard fan at all, so I can joke about it lol.

Diehard Bears fan here. I don't think much will change as long as the McCaskey family owns them. I hope they don't waste the #3 pick on a qb.

 

[cubsfan815]

All diehard fans have committed suicide or changed teams in the Cutler era lol

Was never Cutler's fault. Too many offensive coordinator changes and OLine changes. He never got a chance. I'd have a poor attitude too if I was leaning new offenses every other year.