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    Do you think Kapernick should get the start or Smith?
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    Kapernick. He makes all the throws, was threading the needle against Chi D. He also has wheels. The guy wasn't a second round pick for nothing. I like Smith, but it's time for the niners to move on from a game manager QB
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie
    Do you think Kapernick should get the start or Smith?
    Absolutely. Now that I live in the SF market and have watched them for the last 2 years. I'd say the 49ers have been winning in spite of Alex Smith. He cannot create plays, he's a slightly more athletic version of Trent Dilfer.

    If SF didnt have the most athletic TE in the league, Smith would really be SOL.
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    Couldn't agree with both of you more! I've wanted Kap to start since they drafted him.
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    Little late chiming in but Kap is the better play. We might not win the Super Bowl with Kap this year but we definitely weren't gonna win with Smith. The offense is more explosive and teams can no longer stack 8 in the box cuz Kap can beat them deep. Kap will be a Pro Bowler in 2-3 years. All we need is for the most important Smith (Justin) to heal ASAP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Warrior View Post
    Little late chiming in but Kap is the better play. We might not win the Super Bowl with Kap this year but we definitely weren't gonna win with Smith. The offense is more explosive and teams can no longer stack 8 in the box cuz Kap can beat them deep. Kap will be a Pro Bowler in 2-3 years. All we need is for the most important Smith (Justin) to heal ASAP
    Just saw your response. Really looking good for us I think. Call me biased but I think Kap is a pro bowler next year. **** you could make a case for him to be MVP this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    Just saw your response. Really looking good for us I think. Call me biased but I think Kap is a pro bowler next year. **** you could make a case for him to be MVP this year.
    You're right Reggie, he's definitely headed in the right direction and will be elite. That NFC West will be getting tougher with Wilson in Seattle and St. Louis on the rise. Kap is just 25 ! Can't imagine how much better he will be in 2-3 years. Everyone talks about teams figuring out the pistol but he only did brutal damage against Green Bay out of the pistol. He won impressive games vs Atlanta, New England, Green Bay, & Chicago in 10 starts !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Warrior View Post

    You're right Reggie, he's definitely headed in the right direction and will be elite. That NFC West will be getting tougher with Wilson in Seattle and St. Louis on the rise. Kap is just 25 ! Can't imagine how much better he will be in 2-3 years. Everyone talks about teams figuring out the pistol but he only did brutal damage against Green Bay out of the pistol. He won impressive games vs Atlanta, New England, Green Bay, & Chicago in 10 starts !
    Absolutely and the way he plays under pressure at the very beginning of his career, it's insane. I just worry about what seems to ultimately happen to almost all QBs that can run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post

    Just saw your response. Really looking good for us I think. Call me biased but I think Kap is a pro bowler next year. **** you could make a case for him to be MVP this year.
    No you can't make any case for him to be MVP and it isn't close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    No you can't make any case for him to be MVP and it isn't close.
    Gotta give me more than that man. Let's see he beat Brady, and Rodgers broke the all time single game rushing record in the playoffs none the less and took the Niners back to the Superbowl I'd say it has to be a little "close"
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    Also helped the Niners overcome the biggest playoff deficit and win against the Falcons on their home turf and almost brought them back in the Superbowl and was 1 play away from doing that.
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    Yes, all true & valid points buuuuut MVP doesn't account for post season stats/games ;-)
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    MVP is a regular season award. Colin played half a season that right there takes him out, on top of that the 49ers are a great team without him. they went to the afc championship game last year with out him, this year they were without him they were 6 and 2. They would lose more games without patrick willis out of the line-up then with Kap out.

    ap,brady,rodgers,manning, etc ,etc,etc mean more to there teams then kap does. If the award was based on playoff performance ap wouldnt have got the award. Its not even debatable Kap isnt even close to this years MVP.

    Plain and simple its a homer pick.
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    A homer pick? Lmao the Pats went 10-6 with Matt Cassel Brady's good but they can do it without him as well I guess. Broncos went to the playoffs with Tim Tebow I know that's previous year stuff but I guess you could still holds true for anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Yes, all true & valid points buuuuut MVP doesn't account for post season stats/games ;-)
    True I didn't say he was going to win the award I was simply saying that for a kid to come in under that much pressure and do what he did is pretty damn impressive
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    True I didn't say he was going to win the award I was simply saying that for a kid to come in under that much pressure and do what he did is pretty damn impressive
    And I'm obviously biased lol
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    First of that was 5 years ago not last season. NE had a winning season without brady , but they didnt go to the playoffs and NE with Brady is a SB caliber team. The broncos went to the playoffs with a great defense not just Timmy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    True I didn't say he was going to win the award I was simply saying that for a kid to come in under that much pressure and do what he did is pretty damn impressive

    Im not saying he isnt good or even better than Smith, but lets be realistic this team is very good from top to bottom and can win games with alot of players under center. Im not saying anything will change completely, but would like to see what happens in a couple years with the option/pistol offense has been around a couple years.
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    Thats why I said previous years. I realize it wasn't last year. I said you could make a case on MVP not he should win it. That's all
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    Your beating me to the punch lol ya they are a stacked team with a great coach I'm really excited for the future
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    and Im saying you cant make a case for MVP because there are multple other players that if you took them away from their respective teams the team wouldn't even be half as good. My point for bringing up last year was this is basically the same team as last year add in Kap and they went to the afc championship. You take Kap out of the line up and put smith back in I wouldnt be surprised if they go to the superbowl anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post

    True I didn't say he was going to win the award I was simply saying that for a kid to come in under that much pressure and do what he did is pretty damn impressive
    Yeah I understand what you're saying.

    I feel Megatron should have gotten MVP love too.

    Homeboy sounds like he may be a Raiders fan hehe :-D
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    Megatron did go off. Had him on my fantasy team and AP and Manning. No one wanted to take the risk with them. I'd say it turned out alright lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post

    Yeah I understand what you're saying.

    I feel Megatron should have gotten MVP love too.

    Homeboy sounds like he may be a Raiders fan hehe :-D
    Raiders fan is no. I don't hate the niners or kap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post

    Raiders fan is no. I don't hate the niners or kap.
    I was joking. Living in Cali, Raiders fans NEVER had anything nice to say about anything niners.

    Actually, most California sports fans are VERY "poor sports" about their teams, acting more immature than 3yr olds.

    Not saying you are, at all ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    they went to the afc championship game last year .
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    [QUOTE="rugger48;3869954"] My point for bringing up last year was this is basically the same team as last year add in Kap and they went to the afc championship. /QUOTE]

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    He isnt a QB. He is a wildcat WR taking snaps, having to make up for his lack of throwing skills by running. Wrong what SF did to Smith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbear22 View Post
    He isnt a QB. He is a wildcat WR taking snaps, having to make up for his lack of throwing skills by running. Wrong what SF did to Smith.
    You're aware we're talking about Collin Kapernick, not Tim Tebow, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbear22 View Post
    He isnt a QB. He is a wildcat WR taking snaps, having to make up for his lack of throwing skills by running. Wrong what SF did to Smith.
    He beat the number 1 seed at their house with his arm. I'd say he's a pretty good qb
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbear22 View Post
    He isnt a QB. He is a wildcat WR taking snaps, having to make up for his lack of throwing skills by running. Wrong what SF did to Smith.
    Have you ever seen Kaepernick play before? I believe this is a rhetorical question.
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    Im not a fan of the guy, think people think to highly of him. 49ers was saved in the playoffs by kaepernick running abilities. Lucky that light went out at Superbowl, First half showed just how good he really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbear22 View Post
    Im not a fan of the guy, think people think to highly of him. 49ers was saved in the playoffs by kaepernick running abilities. Lucky that light went out at Superbowl, First half showed just how good he really is.
    Smith = NFC game. Kapernick = Super Bowl with a hurt defense (both Smiths banged up). That's a pretty erroneous claim to say he's not good.
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    And he hardly ran at all against the Falcons. First half of "THE SUPERBOWL" for a kid that hadn't even been a starter for an entire season. Look what he did in the second half. The lights going out had nothing to do with it. Too many people use that excuse. He had good comebacks in a few games. He's just that much of a competitor and the Niners are too good of a team to go out like that.
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    Chiefs vs. 49ers cant wait to see it. you might be right about kaepernick, I just dont think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbear22 View Post
    Im not a fan of the guy, think people think to highly of him. 49ers was saved in the playoffs by kaepernick running abilities. Lucky that light went out at Superbowl, First half showed just how good he really is.
    Clearly you're not a fan of the guy but to be flat out ignorant of his playing abilities (passing and running, not to mention poise under pressure) is another thing.
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    As long as he stays healthy....(.and I don't care if people don't agree with me or not) he is going to be legen...wait for it.......dary!!
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    I agree Smith did well but I honestly feel it was due to the system. Kap has crazy abilities and in Harbaughs system boom!
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    Like I said Chiefs vs 49ers. just watch.
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    You think the Chiefs will beat the Niners?
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