UFC or Boxing
- 11-09-2010, 08:34 PM
I think the decline in boxing is because everything is a PPV now or you have to have HBO or Showtime to watch the more known fighters. I love boxing but neither channel is close to being worth price to watch a good fight once or twice a month. As I mentioned in 80s and earlier you got the best fighters in the world fighting on network TV for free. ESPN only showcases up and commers with an ocassional semi big name.
With the UFC they have a PPV every month and or free shows sometimes. So its a bit easier to follow the UFC. Most people call MMA, Ultimate Fighting.
- 11-18-2010, 10:07 PM
With MMA around there will never be a Tyson and without heavyweights like Tyson boxing will slowly fall honestly. It is a shame but frankly you have a better career in MMA. With boxing you lose once and you're done practically except for those select few.
11-20-2010, 07:39 PM
11-20-2010, 07:56 PM
As previously stated, boxing has a long standing tradition, boasting athletes who have gone on to become national icons, such as Muhammad Ali. MMA has a long way to go before it steeps itself in that kind of tradition. Its most popular attraction was a guy who use to jump off a turnbuckle against guys named "The Undertaker", and then tried out for every sport short of badminton before he found one that actually stuck. Pac's last two fights generated more money for him in a year, than most MMA fighters will see in a career. MMA is popular "now", let's see how that holds up years from now, then you can draw a proper comparison, until then boxing by TKO.
Since the UFC is privately held and does not release revenue reports, then who knows how much they are actually generating? I've heard numbers that are all over the place.
11-21-2010, 04:18 AM
Mayweather vs marquez generated 1 mill pp buys, it takes 5 ufc fights to generate that. MMA will never be a sport until Dana White steps down. MMA fighters are fast food fighters; it takes a year to build a pro mma fighter instead of the ten years it takes to build a pro boxer
11-21-2010, 04:44 AM
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11-21-2010, 01:30 PM
11-21-2010, 01:43 PM
And that's all this year and off the top of my head.
I hate to break it to people, but wrestling is amongst the oldest martial arts out there and is a significant part of MMA.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
11-21-2010, 01:58 PM
Lesnar was the number one PPV draw in the UFC. The most recent PPV numbers substantiate that, however, since the UFC is a privately held company, we aren't privy to the actual numbers. I was simply offering some perspective on how Lesnar was marketed. I saw some individuals taking a swipe at boxing, and clearly they don't understand the sport, much in the same way I admit to not fully understanding MMA. I've attended live events with respect to both sports. Again - both sports offer something unique. UFC does in fact hold the record for PPV, however, that doesn't tell the whole story relative to revenue.
11-21-2010, 03:41 PM
Fair point, however, boxers are brought along slowly to maximize their potential, more so than to simply pad their records. As an example, Fernando Vargas was thrown into the lion's den after having only 20 pro bouts to his name, against the likes of Felix Tito Trinidad; and consequently was never the same after that. If he were given the chance to mature both mentally and physically, presumably he could have gone down as one of the best fighters of his generation, based solely on his talent level. Boxers have a short lifespan to maximize both their potential and their pocket books.
I agree that MMA is more popular in certain areas of the world, however, if you have one of their countryman fighting for a title in boxing, it will capture their imagination and the entire country, much like Manny Pac has. More over he doesn't speak English, yet was still granted an SI cover, and was a first seat guest on Leno, Letterman and Kimmel. Some of the biggest fights in boxing history were fought internationally, in places like Manila and Zaire. Everyone has heard of the "Thrilla in Manila", not so sure everyone has heard about "Lesnar/Couture". History speaks to my general point.
I think MMA has it's place. To argue that it's more popular than boxing, would need to be argued in context, given that it's only been given a mainstream outlet in the past few years. It would need another 20 to justify that argument while steeping itself in tradition, much like Muhammad Ali, Tyson and Leonard among many others have come to define boxing and become A-List celebrities outside of their respective sport.
11-21-2010, 03:46 PM
11-21-2010, 04:34 PM
pacman is the only savior boxing has right now. without him... fight fans will slowly transfer over to mma. the love of the science of boxing keeps boxing fans loyal...but thats because they understand boxing...mma is new, and the knowledge is growing daily, so as the fans become more educated the the faster it grows..
11-21-2010, 08:14 PM
I have seen this discussion so many times and do not really get it.It is like saying which is better (american) football or rugby.Two totally different sports (which has already been stated).I like most sports and most combat sports. I do not get why people who prefer boxing have to say anything other than that they prefer boxing.I don't know that I have ever heard someone who prefered mma to boxing attack boxing until mma was first attacked.
Anyone can talk about technique but the fact is perfect technique will change on where and how to hold your hands if you are strictly boxing or if you have to worry about someone shooting on you.And shooting technique and how you set it up will change if you have to deal with the possibility of being guillotined.
And the class thing, really? Ask someone who likes tennis how classy they think boxing is.Not to mention did not one of the best boxers in the heavy weight division bite someones ear off in the ring.
12-22-2010, 12:29 PM
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05-26-2011, 07:55 PM
I've done both on an amateur level, so if Im watching I'd prefer MMA, if I'm particpating I'll take boxing....less likely to get my ass kicked, literally
05-26-2011, 09:43 PM
Both. MMA & Boxing. But I can't stand to watch sloppy fighting [not that I'm any good]. Gotta love them quick left hooks & uppercuts. Fav. fighters: Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Mike Tyson, Pacquiao, GSP, Anderson Silva, Quinton Jackson
05-27-2011, 10:37 AM
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07-14-2011, 05:57 AM
mike tysin would knockout anybody in the ufc.
brock lesnars fat ass cant bob and weave
shut up and squat!!!
07-14-2011, 11:24 AM
07-14-2011, 11:41 AM
07-14-2011, 11:48 AM
It's apples and oranges. The only reason this debate even exists is money: I have yet to hear a great debate regarding Boxing v K-1.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
07-17-2011, 02:45 PM
07-29-2011, 07:07 PM
"Aren't two sparrows sold for a small coin? But not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father knowing about it already. Even the hairs of your head are all counted. Don't be afraid. You are worth more than many sparrows."
08-21-2011, 11:13 AM
09-21-2011, 11:12 PM
Ufc is more fun to watch most of the time but to tell u the truth sometimes it just feels a bit gay. I know that sounds ignorant but when theyre just on the ground in holds for most of the match it just feels plain gay. I think boxing takes a little more discipline to train for though
you can lead a man to knowledge, but you cant make him think.
09-21-2011, 11:14 PM
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