I am interested in your product but would like to know a little more.
What is the main use for it, Bulking or cutting?
How much does one expect to gain on a high calorie bulking cycle?
What type of strength gains does it give?
I am intrigued to say the least, are any of the compounds in this "new" to the market.
Our first ingredient
4a19 DiMethyl Eticholan 3-one 19b-ol converts in the body to androstenediol which through another conversion will eventually turn into testosterone.
Next 19 Hydroxy-Alpha-Methyl Ethylleticholan will converts to 4-dione
8-Alpha-Beta Methyl-Eticholene 3-19-Dione will convert to 5-dione
I like your approach to this product, very intresting
Can you give us the amounts of each active per dose?
...and the conversion rates would be even better, if you know them...
Thanks in advance,
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
I would guess this stuff is very low in the side effect area, and cause an increased feeling in well being,
just guessing but is the methyl deconate used to counterbalance an increase in estrogen that would normally come with the other hormones, also the energy side is brilliant (caffiene and synephrine)
There is obviously ALOT of thought put into this product as it strives to balance many different systems in the body that are effected by intense training
I would say in a bulking phase we are looking at about an avg of 10 lbs in 4 weeks. We have had some guys put on as much as 17 though.
Very effective stuff.
The best part is no one is crashing coming off. The users are holding their gains very well
have you tested this against other otc products in the market on what end would you rate it, Very few otc compounds are impressive, But there were certainatley a few that were, the original pro-hormones were honestly superior in my opinion, the best thing I have used so far is G.E.T SUS-500(otc) I dont find epi-havoc, sdrol,or orastan-a impressive in the least.
Finigenex is the only thing i think would be decent if run solo in high doses(that is still legal)
like i said i like your approach, you are using metabolites of things that actually worked and combining them. I assume this stuff has a very direct effect on test instead of other pathways, test converts to dht and estrogen, you need some estrogen for gains so instead of using a single compound that doesent convert (epi) you are using very anabolic compounds and just balancing them out with a hardening hormone
to control estrogen
I am intrested in conversion rates as well, if you know them
I'm still confused on the nomenclature/what the ingredients even are. The only results I get when searching are about a product called Halo Test Depot, which had some of the same compounds.
bump on the conversion rates..
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by 19, do you mean 17?
And wow, welcome to the board! I hadn't even noticed you guys had joined.
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Just wait for the testers to start and post. You will see this isn't a product that only looks good on paper. I would put it against any of the old preban hormones.
a solid product w/ good gains, low sides, good bloodwork from testers, and featured at NutraPlanet = great sales
That's a tall order to make but if it turns out to be true i'll be picking some up for damn sure
Once again... Methyl-E is trademarked under EST....