Primaforce/Scivation?

[Vitruvian]

Hi!!

If anyone can shed some light, I'd appreciate it:

Are primaforce and Scivation one in the same?
I guess what I am getting at is: I love Scivation, but have never tried Primaforce. I am interested in trying Fuze (which I am pretty sure is Primaforce). Suggestions?

 

[Apowerz6]

Check out Derek aka the Beast Contest Thread, and the supps he's using, he is using that in conjunction with fenotest. My guess being that they are both solid companies Fuze is legit, and worthwhile...

 

[jkeithc82]

Different product lines but they are owned by the same person. I tend to love both though, wonder why

 

[WhutEvr]

Fuze works much better than Fenotest IMO.

 

[Siznoyton]

I just got the biggest b.s. ad for Fenotest with my last 1fast order...so bad, I'm not going to use their products. They relentlessly compare Fenotest to Testosterone and Viagra. Horrible. What a bunch of ****.

 

[Scivation]

I just got the biggest b.s. ad for Fenotest with my last 1fast order...so bad, I'm not going to use their products. They relentlessly compare Fenotest to Testosterone and Viagra. Horrible. What a bunch of ****.

We actually have the research to back this up and a human clinical study is ongoing.

I appreciate your concern.

 

[jkeithc82]

I just got the biggest b.s. ad for Fenotest with my last 1fast order...so bad, I'm not going to use their products. They relentlessly compare Fenotest to Testosterone and Viagra. Horrible. What a bunch of ****.

Would you like some research my friend? Kind of question why you would disregard an entire companies line of products off of one advertisement. Sorry for your feelings.

 

[italionstallion]

I just got the biggest b.s. ad for Fenotest with my last 1fast order...so bad, I'm not going to use their products. They relentlessly compare Fenotest to Testosterone and Viagra. Horrible. What a bunch of ****.

I understand what you're saying, but doing subtle ads is pointless. The masses won't buy your product if your ad looks like this :

 

[Scivation]

I understand what you're saying, but doing subtle ads is pointless. The masses won't buy your product if your ad looks like this :

That is awesome!

Would you like to design our next ad?

 

[italionstallion]

That is awesome!

Would you like to design our next ad?

Sure, ill work on an add for Fuze real quick and post it up :hammer:

 

[italionstallion]

Here is the money maker, i'll pm my addy over so you can send me a cut of the profits :bow28:

 

[jkeithc82]

Here is the money maker, i'll pm my addy over so you can send me a cut of the profits :bow28:

That guy has no triceps whatsoever

 

[italionstallion]

That guy has no triceps whatsoever

It was my portrait of you :rofl:

 

[houseman]

Ugh

 

[jkeithc82]

If that's you in your avatar... you need to worry less about what a supplement ad looks like and is saying and worry more about getting your hungry, almost starved-like body to a grocery store.

Step 1: Go to grocery store
Step 2: buy all the food you can see
Step 3: pay for food
Step 4: go home
Step 5: eat all food you bought
Step 6: train hard and heavy
Step 7: sleep

Now, repeat these steps as many times as you feel are necessary (I'm guessing about 300 times) until you weigh 121lbs - so, about 5lbs more than you you look now (assuming that's you in your avatar).

And, stop pissing off board sponsors with stupidity.

Ummmm, Italion was making a joke about Siznoyton, who originally complained about the ad.

 

[italionstallion]

If that's you in your avatar... you need to worry less about what a supplement ad looks like and is saying and worry more about getting your hungry, almost starved-like body to a grocery store.

Step 1: Go to grocery store
Step 2: buy all the food you can see
Step 3: pay for food
Step 4: go home
Step 5: eat all food you bought
Step 6: train hard and heavy
Step 7: sleep

Now, repeat these steps as many times as you feel are necessary (I'm guessing about 300 times) until you weigh 121lbs - so, about 5lbs more than you you look now (assuming that's you in your avatar).

And, stop pissing off board sponsors with stupidity.

Sorry man, didnt mean to piss you off so much. That is me in my avatar, i weigh in right at 200 and i am quite happy with the progress ive made. No need to make it personal, you have no idea where ive come from to get to what i am now.

Sorry to Marc and prima/scivation for getting this in your forum, i will stay out

 

[houseman]

Ummmm, Italion was making a joke about Siznoyton, who originally complained about the ad.

Argh. ****.

Ok then.

MY bad.

Hah.

 

[houseman]

Sorry man, didnt mean to piss you off so much. That is me in my avatar, i weigh in right at 200 and i am quite happy with the progress ive made. No need to make it personal, you have no idea where ive come from to get to what i am now.

Sorry to Marc and prima/scivation for getting this in your forum, i will stay out

My bad. I had the wrong person. Damn.

It was sooo good too.

200? Must be tall bud. I'm 6'3 so I know the difficulties of APPEARING to look big.

Keep at'er.

 

[jkeithc82]

Houseman is sorry Italion. He mistakenly thought the disgruntled Fenotest advertisement reader was you instead of Siznoyton. All is good in the neighborhood.

 

[WhutEvr]

We actually have the research to back this up and a human clinical study is ongoing.

I appreciate your concern.

I can vouch from use of both products that Fenotest does not compare to Viagra if you have E.D.

For those who don't have it, it probably does give similar Viagra effects.

 

[Scivation]

Here is the money maker, i'll pm my addy over so you can send me a cut of the profits :bow28:

This is brilliant.

 

[Siznoyton]

Please post the research--I'm all ears.

In the meantime, here are some sections of the ad:

"this compound led to gains in lean mass and sex drive comparable to that of illegal anabolics and prescription drugs--all while being 100% safe and side effect free!"

Umm....really? Prove it. Anything that modulates testosterone to the point of causing physiological changes is not without sides.

And please explain how you short-circuit the negative feedback loops?

Here's more:

"What does this mean to you? Growth beyond what even the prohormones of yesterday without shutting down your natural supply."

How many times have we heard this? Better than M1T with no sides! Just like Deca...come on, this is total bullshit.

Scivation puts out a lot of top quality products, but these claims are outrageous and if you don't see that you're blinded by something.

 

[jkeithc82]

Please post the research--I'm all ears.

A human clinical trial is underway at the moment as well.

 

[ChuckieRD]

A human clinical trial is underway at the moment as well.

Thanks for the post. I was looking for it to post and, POOF. This should shed some light on why we felt this strongly for our ad. Also, we do have a human clinical trial underway looking at libido, lean mass gains and fat loss. Should have data coming in February.

 

[Siznoyton]

What did you determine the effective dose in humans was?

 

[Scivation]

What did you determine the effective dose in humans was?

We used the data and converted it using HED (Human Equivalency Dosing). This is the dose we recommend although some people who have double-dosed have had phenomenal results.

 

[ChuckieRD]

What did you determine the effective dose in humans was?

Well since the study showed various results at different amounts it was concluded on our end to use the highest dosing for human. The effective dose at which Testosterone increased the highest was 25 mg/kg body weight of rats. This dosage of Testofen matched libido increase of Sildenafil Citrate. We based it on 200lb male. Therefore, 200/2.2lb/kg = 90.9 kg. 25mg/6.2 (conversion factor for HED) = 4.16. 4.16 x 90.9 = 378mg, therefore we provided 400mg per day.

 

[Robboe]

I split my fenotest trial into two 2-week phases. During the second 2-week period i felt like a king and had forceful erections to the degree that they were painful.

Through humping my girl I got her sister pregnant...

I'd use it again, definately.

 

[ChuckieRD]

I split my fenotest trial into two 2-week phases. During the second 2-week period i felt like a king and had forceful erections to the degree that they were painful.

Through humping my girl I got her sister pregnant...

I'd use it again, definately.

Now thats impressive....LOL

 

[Robboe]

Now thats impressive....LOL

That's what they said.

 

[jkeithc82]

Through humping my girl I got her sister pregnant...

I'd use it again, definately.

Would that be considered immaculate conception?

 

[Apowerz6]

Wow siz... you got a response from Scivation witht the quickness, and they bought there lab guy out to answer questions, I def will be telling people about this supp line (i work at Vitamin World, and I send them all the time to Vitamin Shoppe to get Xtend, Sensamin, and Fenotest!!!) By the way is the same chuck the ripper who ripped up Quincy Taylor?

 

[Scivation]

I split my fenotest trial into two 2-week phases. During the second 2-week period i felt like a king and had forceful erections to the degree that they were painful.

Through humping my girl I got her sister pregnant...

I'd use it again, definately.

This is the funniest thing I have ever read.

 

[jkeithc82]

Wow siz... you got a response from Scivation witht the quickness, and they bought there lab guy out to answer questions, I def will be telling people about this supp line (i work at Vitamin World, and I send them all the time to Vitamin Shoppe to get Xtend, Sensamin, and Fenotest!!!) By the way is the same chuck the ripper who ripped up Quincy Taylor?

GNC used to send customers to my Vitamin World all the time.

 

[Beast]

By the way is the same chuck the ripper who ripped up Quincy Taylor?

Same guy. I am working with Chuck this year and he is certainly leaving up to his name.

 

[Beast]

Did you ever try Fenotest + Activate Rob?

I've been on Fenotest + FUZE for 8 weeks and the positive sexual side effects are ridiculous :twisted: .

I'm cycling off Fenotest+FUZE and switching to Activate for 6 weeks, then I'll probably use Fenotest+FUZE+Activate for my finals 8 weeks on contest prep.

I split my fenotest trial into two 2-week phases. During the second 2-week period i felt like a king and had forceful erections to the degree that they were painful.

Through humping my girl I got her sister pregnant...

I'd use it again, definately.

 

[ChuckieRD]

Wow siz... you got a response from Scivation witht the quickness, and they bought there lab guy out to answer questions, I def will be telling people about this supp line (i work at Vitamin World, and I send them all the time to Vitamin Shoppe to get Xtend, Sensamin, and Fenotest!!!) By the way is the same chuck the ripper who ripped up Quincy Taylor?

Yes sir, thank you for the nice comments, we try our best.

 

[Robboe]

This is the funniest thing I have ever read.

Reps for the handsome lad who recognised my comedy genius.

 

[Robboe]

Did you ever try Fenotest + Activate Rob?

I've been on Fenotest + FUZE for 8 weeks and the positive sexual side effects are ridiculous :twisted: .

I'm cycling off Fenotest+FUZE and switching to Activate for 6 weeks, then I'll probably use Fenotest+FUZE+Activate for my finals 8 weeks on contest prep.

Nah, i didn't. Sounds interesting though.

 

[jkeithc82]

Reps for the handsome lad who recognised my comedy genius.

Dude I thought you were serious

 

[Robboe]

I was, but i worded it into true hilarity.