How to cycle 1 alpha for newbie?

[Ready2grow]

Ran 1 cycle of 1 andro 4 months ago. Now ready for another round. I can't find much info on 1 Alpha. Can some one recommend how to dose this stuff? Had ok results with the andro, hoping for better with alpha.
Age 31
Wt. 165
Ht. 5'10"
BF-<12%

 

[McCrew530]

Google CEL alpha one and there will be a bunch of info here is a basic write up on it.
http://tunedsports.com/designer-steroids/alpha-one-methyl-1alpha-m1a/

 

[hvactech]

I'm pretty sure he means like finaflex 1 alpha, not m1a.............

 

[McCrew530]

ya that would be two completely different compounds. disregard my previous post OP

 

[OnionKnight]

just look for 1-dhea cycle info. theyre pretty much the same thing

 

[hvactech]

There's actually a good bit of info on it. Check the alpha logs.....

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Google CEL alpha one and there will be a bunch of info here is a basic write up on it.
http://tunedsports.com/designer-steroids/alpha-one-methyl-1alpha-m1a/

i had to laff - I mean we are in the finaflex forum
this guy....


anyway - yes OP 1-Alpha can be compared to 1-Andro, with the difference being generically:
1) more absorption, and
2) more potent
making it ~twice as powerful than 1-Andro..hence, dosing is advised at 1-2 caps daily, personally I would go with 2 caps, split ~10-12hrs apart w/ food

1-Alpha also has a tendency to have more dramatic effects, comparatively speaking, as far as total effectiveness, and reaction to compounded effectiveness (ie visual/notable obvious differences/weight gain/strength etc)

hope this helps

 

[McCrew530]

i had to laff - I mean we are in the finaflex forum
this guy....


anyway - yes OP 1-Alpha can be compared to 1-Andro, with the difference being generically:
1) more absorption, and
2) more potent
making it ~twice as powerful than 1-Andro..hence, dosing is advised at 1-2 caps daily, personally I would go with 2 caps, split ~10-12hrs apart w/ food

1-Alpha also has a tendency to have more dramatic effects, comparatively speaking, as far as total effectiveness, and reaction to compounded effectiveness (ie visual/notable obvious differences/weight gain/strength etc)

hope this helps

Thats what I get for looking through the recent post file and not looking at the forum it was in

 

[edje007]

Thats what I get for looking through the recent post file and not looking at the forum it was in<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=86073"/>

Lol....

 

[Ready2grow]

Thanks

 

[Ready2grow]

So far not impressed at all with 1 alpha. 3 weeks into it and not much of anything. Gotta admit feeling a little let down on this product. I'll keep it going till I'm done and post back.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

So far not impressed at all with 1 alpha. 3 weeks into it and not much of anything. Gotta admit feeling a little let down on this product. I'll keep it going till I'm done and post back.

dosing level being used?
and typically, 2-3 weeks in is about the timeframe where you will start to see gains/effectiveness
don't be discouraged, this appears very normal..is not a methylated product, that will be eye-opening in it's effectiveness
not gonna have the potential health concerns as a methyl either, trade-off is good

 

[Ready2grow]

Week 1- 2 caps daily
Week 2&3- 3 caps daily
Diet has been so so clean around 3000 cals. No fastfood no alcohol. My macronutrient ratio around the avg 40/35/25. With 1 Andro showed results alot faster and the best part I maintained the 4 pnds i gained with no extra body fat.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

alpha is roughly same (only better) version of andro, so I don't see how you say what you are saying
better absorption, and you are actually taking quite a bit more active in 1-alpha @3caps, than in 1-andro @4caps
obviously, something else seems to be the issue for you

 

[hvactech]

I'm guessing diet or training

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I'm guessing diet or training

yep
last guy who complained about his relative lack of progress (up 10lbs, but didn't see it anywhere, not muscle or fat) :think:
was drinking milk out the yingyang, 200g sugar out of his 350g carb intake

hmmm..wonder what the problem is...

 

[Montego1]

There are SO many things that come into play. I might ask. What was your training split. What was a rough layout of meals and meal timing. What was your starting bf. Ending bf. Give us an idea on all of those things and I bet you get your answer.

 

[Ready2grow]

Will post when complete thanks

 

[tmaxx123]

you shouldnt drink milk while on 1-alpha?

 

[hvactech]

you shouldnt drink milk while on 1-alpha?

Thats not what he is saying

 

[snagencyV2.0]

you shouldnt drink milk while on 1-alpha?

LOL
you shouldn't drink milk PERIOD, cow milk anyway..but that is my personal opinion, nothing to do with 1-alpha

did you know humans are the ONLY species who:
1) drink milk from another animal, AND
2) drink milk of any kind beyond childhood and into adulthood

milk allergies are frequented by majority of population, well over 50% -- even tho many ppl are clueless to the signs of these allerigies so live in ignorance of their ailment

now do you feel me, bud?

 

[tmaxx123]

LOL
you shouldn't drink milk PERIOD, cow milk anyway..but that is my personal opinion, nothing to do with 1-alpha

did you know humans are the ONLY species who:
1) drink milk from another animal, AND
2) drink milk of any kind beyond childhood and into adulthood

milk allergies are frequented by majority of population, well over 50% -- even tho many ppl are clueless to the signs of these allerigies so live in ignorance of their ailment

now do you feel me, bud?

i understand, and i have heard that before. But I don't have any of those milk allergy symptoms, and milk can account for a decent size of my calorie intake per day, since i drink it with every meal and in the morning/night. Plus I just started 1-alpha, and was just making sure I am not decreasing its effectiveness my drinking milk. I thought that you meant milk isn't ideal to drink while on cycle, but I interpreted incorrectly, I guess.

thanks for the info

 

[OnionKnight]

i dont wanna start an argument here or anything. but we're also the only species with access to milk after childhood

 

[Montego1]

Drinking milk won't affect the way the ph works. .... the thing is though IMO you are wasting calories that could be used for more filling and healthy foods.

Personally i would take the liquid fat and carbs out from the milk and sub those for more solid foods instead.

 

[McCrew530]

i dont wanna start an argument here or anything. but we're also the only species with access to milk after childhood

And the only species that drinks the milk of other animals.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Drinking milk won't affect the way the ph works. .... the thing is though IMO you are wasting calories that could be used for more filling and healthy foods.

Personally i would take the liquid fat and carbs out from the milk and sub those for more solid foods instead.

^^ exactly

you want more cals tmaxx? start drinking water all the time instead of milk, and having TBS (or more) of natty peanut butter (or almond butter) instead with all these meals....MUCH more quality choice for caloric option, there

OR - option #2:
start drinking almond milk or coconut milk, instead of cow milk
winning

 

[snagencyV2.0]

i dont wanna start an argument here or anything. but we're also the only species with access to milk after childhood

if you do start an argument, it'll be with yourself :lol:
take what I said, or leave it :shrug: makes me no nevermind
but fyi - yes I have heard that rebuttal before....seems to miss the whole point of the issue, IMO
meh

 

[jimbuick]

And the only species that drinks the milk of other animals.

And we are also the only species that bathes with soap.

And the only species that sterilizes drinking water.


And the only species that cultivates our own food.


Guess we should quit all those things too.


Now, my point is not that milk is OK or not OK, but that using that as your sole argument against it is flawed.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

but that using that as your sole argument against it is flawed.

conversely: using that easily rebutted piece of info (which is only a slice and bit of the whole basis of the argument), as your SOLE source of dissension and stance is equally highly flawed and silly

 

[jimbuick]

conversely: using that easily rebutted piece of info (which is only a slice and bit of the whole basis of the argument), as your SOLE source of dissension and stance is equally highly flawed and silly

I would agree.

Which is why I'm neither arguing for or against it.


Its up to each person individually to decide if the positives of consuming milk are worth the negatives that come with it.

 

[tmaxx123]

Drinking milk won't affect the way the ph works. .... the thing is though IMO you are wasting calories that could be used for more filling and healthy foods.

Personally i would take the liquid fat and carbs out from the milk and sub those for more solid foods instead.

i drink skim milk though.... no fat and not THAT many carbs... will explore my other options as far as calories go, however. Thanks for the info

 

[McCrew530]

And we are also the only species that bathes with soap.

And the only species that sterilizes drinking water.


And the only species that cultivates our own food.


Guess we should quit all those things too.


Now, my point is not that milk is OK or not OK, but that using that as your sole argument against it is flawed.

LOL. Im all for drinking milk and eating milk products, it is nutritious and delicious. I was just adding to the little blurb about having access to milk after infancy.
If we got rid of dairy products all together we would be cutting out a majority of the protein supplements out there.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I would agree.

Which is why I'm neither arguing for or against it.


Its up to each person individually to decide if the positives of consuming milk are worth the negatives that come with it.

exactly right
notice, I said this was my personal opinion - not something i'm wagging my finger at you and saying "you should really follow this"
is up to everyone to make their own decisions - and to live with the ramifications of those decisions as well

i drink skim milk though.... no fat and not THAT many carbs...

is not the amount of carbs that is issue here, let's be very clear...
is the source of those carbs, ie lactose, worthless

LOL. Im all for drinking milk and eating milk products, it is nutritious and delicious.

boldened is quite debatable and false, in actuality
is nothing in cow milk, that you cannot get easily from other sourcing..in fact, you want to claim you like it cuz it has calcium in it?
then go get some almond milk -- that actually has more calcium than cow milk almond milk also is great source of vitamin E, manganese, selenium, magnesium, potassium, zinc, iron, fiber, phosphorous in addition to the calcium -- AND, this is not "fortified" artificially but rather these are indigenous to the nut milk itself

and nobody said cut out dairy - I said adults can do without cow milk, and most have allergies to it - whether they know it or not



I am not the only one who has these opinions on cow milk -- look around, you'll see this is quite common opinion and shared by a great many in the industry, as well in the nutrition field

to each their own tho, as I said doesn't matter to me what choice you make
just make sure when you try to justify it here, you are factual in your stance -- else, I will catch you and call you out

 

[Montego1]

Rest assured here we are not slamming your choices on calorie sources you choose.

This is merely our personal experience and insights on what WE prefer. Opinions are not facts, they are merely suggestions and not meant to start any arguments.

But if you want to argue I've for a black belt in "Brick Wall"

 

[Ready2grow]

Alpha 1 is the stuff! Guess I wasn't patient. Strengths through the ceiling. With a clean diet results will come. Oh and I drank plenty milk for extra calories lol

 

[Beau]

you shouldnt drink milk while on 1-alpha?

You only drink milk during PCT.

 

[Montego1]

The drinking milk thing is just a suggestion on calorie sources. Nothing more