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    what do you guys think of adding stano to the cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by injectdreams View Post
    what do you guys think of adding stano to the cycle?
    PH stano?

    Why would you? Stano is mostly used to combat lethargy caused by methylated DS or PH, usually high dosed.
    I've used it in the past along side a methylated PH.

    Stano has in my honest opinion no other value, so I wouldn't take it in this case.

    Stick to your cycle as planned, and be sure to have diet,training and recovery at it's best.
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    alright just wondering. was reading around and it peeked my interest
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    Quote Originally Posted by injectdreams View Post
    alright just wondering. was reading around and it peeked my interest
    Stano has it's value in the harsh cycles, like superdrol which is/was known to cause lethargy.

    Seen it used with epi and halodrol as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    Stano has it's value in the harsh cycles, like superdrol which is/was known to cause lethargy.

    Seen it used with epi and halodrol as well.

    No worries, just ask....
    yep yep, good stuff there as well as above ed - no need for stano on these products, and as you mentioned stano no value in building muscle..may make you a bit harder overall, about it

    the other aspect here: many ppl use stano as their "test base", as you also mention. with their harsher methylated compounds..
    I am using 1-Andro and 1-Alpha, for my test base
    this is a truer sense of the word, and use of a test base IMO, as stano is not a true test base, just acts in similar fashion to combat the issues with some particular compounds
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    A lot of people also use it because it converts to DHT which if running a wetter compound should keep water logging to a minimum and also keep the nips from getting out of control.

    Obviously with 1andro or 1alpha these arent things you should have to worry about.

    Like my fellow freaks have said though stano wouldnt add anything of significance to the cycle.
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    thanks for the info guys.

    Day 8
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    power rack was takin the whole time i was there.. soo i had to improvise a bit.
    made it a moderate leg day

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    290x8
    290x8

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    No SLDLs?? Those are my favorite when it comes to leg day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    No SLDLs?? Those are my favorite when it comes to leg day!
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    I find RDLs better and more efficacious, myself
    then reg deads separately/another day for back
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    oh joy its monday x_x

    ditched the upright row from the advice you guys gave me.
    decided to do more volume and try to improve my workload capacity

    Day 9 push day

    Bench (left shoulder feels really out of place from the get-go not sure how to go forward with this)
    :135x10
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    155x8
    165x5
    165x5

    smith machine incline around 10degrees (really like these, gave me more contractions than conventional bench)
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    110x7
    120x6
    120x6
    120x6
    110x8
    110x7
    110x6

    incline db press around 40-45degrees
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    55x8
    45x10
    40x10

    db shoulder press (shoulder fatigued by the time i got here, so i might need to change stuff, but im not entirely sure)
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    37x6
    30x7

    front db raises hammer grip
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    22x10
    25x10
    25x10

    bus drivers superset with plate front raises @ 25lbs
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    10x10
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    notes:
    after doing smith machine, i feel like my foundation strength for my chest is relatively week. any tips on how to improve it? and should i keep continuing to use the smith machine?
    my left shoulder does really feel out of place whenever i bench, dont know how i should approach this
    shoulders fatigued from all prior pressing. is this alright before i reach db shoulder press?
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    Smith machine is a no go. Totally Un natural range of motion. Stick with dumbbells. They seem to aggravate my shoulder less then barbell as well. benching before db shoulder press is fine as well. Shoulders are fatigued so a drop in weight will always happen. I think the bigger question is workout structure. Change push days so that shoulders come before chest and vice versa if you want to focus on one more then the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Smith machine is a no go. Totally Un natural range of motion. Stick with dumbbells. They seem to aggravate my shoulder less then barbell as well.
    ^this

    +flat bench presses are not suitable for everybody.
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    hmmm alright. ill ditch the smith. and maybe ditch the regular flat bench and try my luck with incline bench.

    i did warm up properly this morning as well. rotator cuff exercises horizontally and vertically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by injectdreams View Post
    hmmm alright. ill ditch the smith. and maybe ditch the regular flat bench and try my luck with incline bench.

    i did warm up properly this morning as well. rotator cuff exercises horizontally and vertically.
    Unless I use a narrow grip I always get shoulder discomfort from flat barbell bench. Db no problem though. Long arms and such. Try only db work for a while and see how it treats you.
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    try avoiding flat bench for awhile, do everything incline..
    can do DB flyes on flat if you desire, but I like these on incline as well
    avoid dips for awhile, if you are doing them currently, to ease strain on shoulder for a bit
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    Day 10
    4 caps daily still. weight around 159/160
    woke up and my chest and traps were sore. i guess switching it up helped. front raises totally kill, gotta love it

    Back/Pull day

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    BW pullups: 35 (trying to get use to them since i havnt done pullups in awhile/added em starting last week)

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    70x12
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    70x10
    65x10
    65x10

    latpulldown:
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    105x9
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    120z8

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    Looks like s good session. Weeeeeee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Im a big fan of BB rows with inverted grip and weighted pull ups..
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    day 11.
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    Upper body aches from a good back day yesterday.

    Today just feeling really out of it, decided to take the day off to rest and eat.
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    Have you ever tried reverse grip bench for upper pecs? Takes less stress off the delts
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    Quote Originally Posted by injectdreams View Post

    How do you guys go about doing weighted pull ups if I don't have a dip belt
    Hold a DB between your feet, or knees if that's too uncomfortable.
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    Hold a plate with your teeth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Hold a plate with your teeth.
    now THAT is freaky
    hmmm sounds right up my alley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
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    With double stuffed Oreos on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
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    That makes me cringe just thinking about it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post

    With double stuffed Oreos on it?
    I prefer the peanut butter ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post

    I prefer the peanut butter ones
    Peanut butter makes it healthy, if I'm not mistaken. Not srs.
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    weight around 159.6-160
    exhausted right now. just finished gym and writing this as im cooking food
    4 caps daily continue
    Day 12 Legs :/
    Squat: 135x5
    155x5,
    185x4,
    205x5,
    210x3,
    215x3,
    215x3,
    215x3 (felt good doing triples, strength slowly coming back to me, would aim 220/225 next time around)

    leg press: 180x10
    270x7
    270x7
    290x8
    300x8
    300x8
    300x7
    300x7
    300x7
    270x7

    seated leg curl:
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    65x10
    65x10

    leg extension:50x10
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    70x10

    accessory work: calfs calfs calfs,weighted cable crunches and hanging leg raises

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    Big volume! Awesome session.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Big volume! Awesome session.
    just gotta kill it! no reason why I should be afraid of extra volume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by injectdreams View Post
    just gotta kill it! no reason why I should be afraid of extra volume.
    none at all - you got solid anabolic in your corner!
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    Happy Friday.

    Day 13
    trying no benching for now, something feels missing from the workout but what do i know

    incline db press:
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    65x8
    55x12
    55x8

    flat db press
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    65x7
    55x10
    55x10
    50x10

    db shoulder press:
    42.5x8
    45x8
    45x7
    45x6
    40x8
    40x8
    35x8
    35x8

    incline db flys ( i have to drop them from now on, they really agitate my left shoulder.)
    25x10
    30x8

    iso-lateral decline press: weight is per hand
    70x10
    75x10
    75x12

    db front raise
    20x10
    25x10
    27.5x10
    27.5x10

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    Quote Originally Posted by injectdreams View Post
    Happy Friday.

    Day 13
    trying no benching for now, something feels missing from the workout but what do i know

    incline db press:
    55x10
    60x8
    65x8
    55x12
    55x8

    flat db press
    60x10
    65x8
    65x7
    55x10
    55x10
    50x10

    db shoulder press:
    42.5x8
    45x8
    45x7
    45x6
    40x8
    40x8
    35x8
    35x8

    incline db flys ( i have to drop them from now on, they really agitate my left shoulder.)
    25x10
    30x8

    iso-lateral decline press: weight is per hand
    70x10
    75x10
    75x12

    db front raise
    20x10
    25x10
    27.5x10
    27.5x10

    busdrivers ss w/ front raises with a plate 25lbs
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    What kind of an incline do you use on your incline dumbbell fly?

    If the incline is too high I get some trouble with my shoulders, on a flat bench it also happens sometimes...slight incline feels best, working up to a max degree of 45(prefer a little lower).

    This is personal, not science...

    also, I wouldn't do shoulder presses before my incline dumbbell fly's, first finish chest, then follow with shoulders(in this set up), this maybe the reason why your shoulder gives out on the incline fly.
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    maybe. the incline at the gym is like 40-45degrees minimum. i do my inclines at the lowest possible setting possible.

    i usually would like to have a plate under the bench to make it a -5 to -10 degrees to take some tension off shoulder but they bolted the benches to the floor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by injectdreams View Post
    maybe. the incline at the gym is like 40-45degrees minimum. i do my inclines at the lowest possible setting possible.

    i usually would like to have a plate under the bench to make it a -5 to -10 degrees to take some tension off shoulder but they bolted the benches to the floor...
    That sucks...the benches at my gym have so many different angles, I'm lucky I guess, can change it to however it feels that day.
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    i usually would like to have a plate under the bench to make it a -5 to -10 degrees to take some tension off shoulder but they bolted the benches to the floor...

    not even close to being a safe practice, would not advise

    as for always using lowest angle: mix it up!
    various angles always enhance and promote growth and full development in chest region
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post

    not even close to being a safe practice, would not advise

    as for always using lowest angle: mix it up!
    various angles always enhance and promote growth and full development in chest region

    that was months ago :/ yeah i still need to figure out a balanced push day...
  

  
 

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