How I should dose my first Epi-v cycle for beginner
- 05-23-2013, 01:40 AM
How I should dose my first Epi-v cycle for beginner
I'm 30yoa and have been lifting solid for 5 years. I'm 6"0 at 215lbs at 18% bf. I've tried several supplements and did an 8 week LG PH-17(weak) cut with minimal results. I followed as directed and luckily did not have any sides but no progress either; PCT was their super cycle with 6g of DAA a day.
I wanted to give Epi-v a shot but was curious as to how I should dose it with virgin receptors and for how long?
I also thought about starting with 550-xd and then bridging into Epi-v to shred but how should I dose it?
I definitely want to shred up so whatever works.
I plan on cutting with Lyle's UD 2.0 diet.
Any input would be appreciated.
- 05-23-2013, 12:38 PM
I'm doing a short run with Epi-V and 550. Was advised to just run them together as recommended on label. So 2 caps per day of each.
- 05-23-2013, 12:43 PM
05-23-2013, 12:55 PM
Yeah. 1 of each in the AM and 1 of each in PM.
I'm sure PCT Revo. and Pure Test will be enough coming off
05-23-2013, 01:02 PM
05-23-2013, 01:04 PM
better option for you currently would be the 550xd - is a great recomp product..also gives relief to aching joints
run at 4 caps daily, splitting 2/2, 4-6 weeks duration
if at ~4-week mark you have dropped bodyfat sufficiently, you may then consider combining epi-V for duration, or even switching over to straight epi-V if desired
as has been mentioned, our PCT Black + PureTest combo is sufficient for this cycle in pct
05-23-2013, 01:20 PM
05-23-2013, 01:25 PM
05-23-2013, 01:34 PM
05-23-2013, 01:39 PM
05-28-2013, 05:09 PM
Haven't seen it mentioned, but if you're looking for a good recomp prior to shredding, you can throw some PX Black in with the 550xd to help get that body fat down some.
Once you get the BF% down, toss in the epi-v and I'd say you'd be in for a good amount of leaning out.
05-29-2013, 05:43 AM
05-30-2013, 08:25 AM
05-30-2013, 05:40 PM
05-31-2013, 03:57 PM
550 is wild for recomp. You can gain 2-5 lbs but drop 2-3% bf and those are conservative estimates, throw in PX ...who knows...
06-12-2013, 10:57 PM
Thanks for the input guys. Now I'm having a hard time deciding what kind of resistance training program I should do for the recomp? I can only workout in the morning since I work in the evenings but I plan on hitting the weights first and then jumping on the stairmaster for 40 minutes after.
Any thoughts on a workout that could add as much muscle as possible under a recomp?
06-12-2013, 11:04 PM
lots of possibilities bud..
i'm not one for "set" written programs, but general guidelines for you:
3-4 exercises per bodypart, 3-4 sets per exercise, reps in the 8-12 range, rest periods shorter
training can be from 4-5x weekly
fyi - that's a lot of cardio after training, but some have that preference (not me)
mrkleen knows a multitude of set routines, he may be of more assistance than I
06-12-2013, 11:30 PM
I had a lot of success with madcow training. Fst7 has been my favorite by far though. I think fst7 is perfectly suited for a recomp actually. Could also cut cardio in half or out all together with shorter rest periods. Gvt. Mountain dog. All are good options.
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06-13-2013, 08:11 AM
I think FST is very good for the established lifter who needs a bit more volume having attained a certain amount of mass. It can be used for a lot of situations depending on how you set it up I guess. Montego and Kleen are teh experts on this one. I am very comfortable with my 5 day routine where I double up on Chest. Just got it from one of the basic examples and altered it for my own needs.
FST has opened my eyes to the fact that I may need a tad more volume in my workouts as it was immediately beneficial. When I go warrior after this I will be keeping this in mind maybe adding some sets to it. Then I come right back to FST again.
06-13-2013, 11:35 AM
dietary intake/food choices going to play the most important part in this 3-part equation of recomp (supps & training of course follow)..be on point!
06-13-2013, 12:25 PM
06-13-2013, 12:58 PM
06-13-2013, 04:52 PM
06-13-2013, 04:53 PM
06-13-2013, 08:53 PM
Yeah diet needs to be on point, I had learn that the hard way last fall after I did a 3 month bulk using linear periodization and carb-backloading. I got stronger but got fat as well, and I didn't keep much of the mass.
Carb-backloading is tricky and I did a dirty bulk.
I got 3 bottles of 550-xd ready to go! Have to wait to get snipped before I hit hard in 3 weeks. Gonna run for six weeks at 4 caps a day with PCT Black with DAA for post cycle. Also bought Taurine for back pumps and gonna dose that at 5g with my pre-workout drink (Speedx3 and Pumpx3 by Lecheek).
06-13-2013, 09:02 PM
nice supply - way to do it righteousI got 3 bottles of 550-xd ready to go!
is that a typo?Have to wait to get snipped before I hit hard in 3 weeks.
your chances of having back pumps on this product are pretty low..Gonna run for six weeks at 4 caps a day with PCT Black with DAA for post cycle. Also bought Taurine for back pumps and gonna dose that at 5g with my pre-workout drink (Speedx3 and Pumpx3 by Lecheek).
06-13-2013, 09:40 PM
07-16-2013, 10:06 PM
Ok Gents, I started my 550-xd cycle 13 days ago and have not noticed anything yet except small headaches and more aggression/agitation. When should I expect to start noticing changes on my body? I'm running at 4 caps a day(2 morning, 2 evening).
Also, anything I can do for the headaches?
I wanted to start a log but I got too much stuff going on and I know I wouldn't be able to commit to it.
07-16-2013, 11:21 PM
varies on results, but most start seeing around 3 weeks/4th week in - dosing looks good
headaches should not be an issue, is not that kind of compound
I am not a medical practitioner, so cannot advise you here but to say make sure you have increased water intake and are drinking plenty
07-24-2013, 02:54 PM
I would not have expected headaches from this but yes try increasing water intake and if you still have some problems you could try some Hawthorne Berry to be safe.
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