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    I've noticed some stim withdrawal migraines before. Go away fast though. You vacationing in NC? Obx? Hope your having a good time off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishSoldier View Post
    I've noticed some stim withdrawal migraines before. Go away fast though. You vacationing in NC? Obx? Hope your having a good time off.
    Yah Caffeine withdrawls I guess, don't know I don't drink coffee but I get the withdrawls coming off stims with caffeine in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishSoldier View Post
    I've noticed some stim withdrawal migraines before. Go away fast though. You vacationing in NC? Obx? Hope your having a good time off.
    Yeah Irish, currently in kannapolis, nc.
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    PCT Day 12 - 154.1


    I was happy this morning to see my weight was still above 154. I did get into the gym this morning but can't seem to find my notebook so I ended hitting a lot of body parts except chest which I will do tomorrow. Strength is feeling good still. I think the biggest strength gain I had this cycle was my back. My back felt great this morning so rows and I should have pushed the weight but ran out of time. Anyway guys I'm still digging. I'm going to also get around the writing reviews and taking new measurements.
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    gotta like the commitment of this guy, updating while on vaca
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    gotta like the commitment of this guy, updating while on vaca
    Yeah I'm back home now. Jet lagged but its all good. Don't know why but the last week my appetite has been out of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    gotta like the commitment of this guy, updating while on vaca
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post

    Yeah I'm back home now. Jet lagged but its all good. Don't know why but the last week my appetite has been out of control.
    Probably means you need more food to fuel recovery. Eat if you feel like you need to eat. Don't fin forget....you gained lean mass. Eat a surplus to maintain it. Lots of guys makke the mistake of cutting calories backk when done with cycles in fear of getting fat. This is a one way street to lossville.
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    I'm not afraid of getting fat, what killing me is I will slam a bunch of food and be full, 30 minutes later I feel like I never ate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    I'm not afraid of getting fat, what killing me is I will slam a bunch of food and be full, 30 minutes later I feel like I never ate.
    I'm not seeing the problem. Lol
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    Metabolism is in overdrive. It's a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Probably means you need more food to fuel recovery. Eat if you feel like you need to eat. Don't fin forget....you gained lean mass. Eat a surplus to maintain it. Lots of guys makke the mistake of cutting calories backk when done with cycles in fear of getting fat. This is a one way street to lossville.
    This is what's always been preached to me...& I've always over-eaten (clean, just as much as on cycle, although I'm no longer growING), & always gained a bit of fat as a result. But after this last 1-alpha/cyano/msten cycle I totally randomly started cutting maybe a wk into pct....I mean cutting cals & cycling or backloading carbs & eating clean as ever for me. I've went from peak on cycle weight of 218 dry in the morning to 203 now, but my muscles look just as big (def can see the gains vs before cycle) & my bench and dead have been getting stronger on working weights. And I'm stoopid leaner, never seen my core start to pop like this. Squats went down some but I lost 15lbs of weight to drive the bar & I started squatting below parallel...and even then its only down 20-25lbs. I was holding zero water weight under skin as I actually crushed my estrogen accidentally (nightsweats, ridiculous joints, libido tank), so aside from glycogen drop I think I've seriously lost 8-11lbs of fat.

    What I'm saying is if you eat religiously, as much or more protein as on, get rest, keep training heavy or heavier, I think the muscle will stay on. But that still takes a lot of discipline, and I think the bigger issue is that lots of guys come off cycle & they think it's time to sit back & relax on diet & training. As a hardgainer type, PRE prob would be best served to take the 'eat like you're getting paid for it' approach, but I don't think that's necessary for all body types. Not for this skinny-fat kid
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    I didn't mean eat just to eat. I meant his lean mass went up so in any diet post cycle or not you have to eat to support your lean body weight. I was referring to gaining ten pounds and then continuing to eat like you did when you were ten pounds lighter. Cutting is fine, but like you said make sure you are eating enough to compensate for the lean weight gain from cycle.
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    I know what you meant, especially coming from you big guy - just wanted to throw it out for others so they won't misunderstand it the way I did when I was newer. People told me, "You have to eat now in pct to protect your gains!" & I took it to mean you have to eat like you're still gaining...but that's not what they meant at all. They meant, "Make sure your maintenance diet is a bit larger than before the cycle to accomodate for the new bigger you."

    Alas, I was so foolish... but hoping to clarify that for someone maybe so they don't do like I did
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    I know what you meant, especially coming from you big guy - just wanted to throw it out for others so they won't misunderstand it the way I did when I was newer. People told me, "You have to eat now in pct to protect your gains!" & I took it to mean you have to eat like you're still gaining...but that's not what they meant at all. They meant, "Make sure your maintenance diet is a bit larger than before the cycle to accomodate for the new bigger you."

    Alas, I was so foolish... but hoping to clarify that for someone maybe so they don't do like I did
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    Great info guys. I am trying to keep cals up while still keeping some cash in my wallet lol.
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    So figure il put this picture up for people who are interested. These are the guys I help out with there modified. I'm the spotter and my good friend is the driver. Standing on my left in all black.

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    You are taller then I thought.
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    I guess it matters how tall you thought I was, I am 5'8. Pretty cool thing just happened I was bored getting ready for bed and rocked out a front double bi. All my vains from delt to delt were visible, they didn't stick out but you could see them. I thought it was pretty cool seeing that many veins in my chest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    You are taller then I thought.
    Pre, it's funny how we build up these images in our heads as to what someone looks like. In this picture you look over 6' and much older. Lol. At 5'-8" those other guys look small. Keep killing the workouts brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post

    Pre, it's funny how we build up these images in our heads as to what someone looks like. In this picture you look over 6' and much older. Lol. At 5'-8" those other guys look small. Keep killing the workouts brother.
    Exactly what I was thinking
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    Funny thing because when I look at that picture I think I look tall, then I remember I am not. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Funny thing because when I look at that picture I think I look tall, then I remember I am not. Lol
    You're taller then I am
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post

    You're taller then I am
    Yeah we'll it seems Ed closer to 5'10 or so is average it seems to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post

    Yeah we'll it seems Ed closer to 5'10 or so is average it seems to me.
    How much is that in cm?
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    177.8
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    So yesterday I did 2 sets of 225x10 on BB shrugs and damn I'm hurting.
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    PCT Day 17 - 151.5


    Hit chest this morning because I wanted to. Felt really good. Probably hitting arms tomorrow. I'm kinda going on the method of listing to my body and working what feel like it needs to be worked. Strength is still there maybe down just a tiny bit. Still doing 2 caps revo, 60mg torem, and 3g PureTest.
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    Looks like a little bit of glycogen came off. Keep hitting them weights bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    PCT Day 17 - 151.5

    Hit chest this morning because I wanted to. Felt really good. Probably hitting arms tomorrow. I'm kinda going on the method of listing to my body and working what feel like it needs to be worked. Strength is still there maybe down just a tiny bit. Still doing 2 caps revo, 60mg torem, and 3g PureTest.
    Just as long as you work your whole body ...otherwise it would be chest day every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Hit chest this morning because I wanted to.
    BAM! pre putting it down
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    The thing about working what you feel like is I wonder if you are working what you should work. I like to plan myself. What I feel is not always what I need. That's me though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    The thing about working what you feel like is I wonder if you are working what you should work. I like to plan myself. What I feel is not always what I need. That's me though....
    I work the same, but when I'm training, and something feels off, I change it.....I stick to the bodypart, unless it's impossible for some reason.


    The other day, I was doing chest, and my shoulder didn't feel right: could have gone home, but changed it to legs instead...

    At the moment I'm doing full body work outs....feel free to follow my log y'all
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    PCT day 18 - 151.5


    Hit arms today. Now to go into what I said yesterday about hitting whatever I want what I mean by that is I'm still hitting the whole body every week the same as before just the days will change every week for a certain body part. This mornings work out was not a long one at all but hit the arms hard and fast and got a pretty good pump going. Happy with today's workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    I work the same, but when I'm training, and something feels off, I change it.....I stick to the bodypart, unless it's impossible for some reason.


    The other day, I was doing chest, and my shoulder didn't feel right: could have gone home, but changed it to legs instead...

    At the moment I'm doing full body work outs....feel free to follow my log y'all
    Adjustments have to be made, I am just talking about not getting carried away with the feel thing. Often the things I don't feel like doing are the things I need most.
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    Fully understandable DW. I took a rest day today because my shoulders are just smoked. I hurt like hell today could have went and done legs but my left knee has been giving me some grief. I may get in tomorrow and hit legs depending in when I get to bed tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Adjustments have to be made, I am just talking about not getting carried away with the feel thing. Often the things I don't feel like doing are the things I need most.
    Totally agree fellow freak....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Often the things I don't feel like doing are the things I need most.
    indeed
    and different issue but same theme: ppl often make the easier choice between exercises, when faced with multiple options..i learned long ago, take the harder choice, you will thank yourself later
  

  
 

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