Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing

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  1. Had some fears of CHO before but honestly I do much better with a solid amount. If anything CHO + PRO are most important on cutting for me as I have to keep CHO pretty high or things get iffy.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Had some fears of CHO before but honestly I do much better with a solid amount. If anything CHO + PRO are most important on cutting for me as I have to keep CHO pretty high or things get iffy.
    yeah i'm not trying to be too finite here, because there are many roads that lead to Rome
    but - the body is an incredibly adaptive organism..i will espouse that, given the proper timeframe to adapt body and the proper approach, carbs are NOT needed to build muscle, nor are they needed to "keep" muscle when cutting bodyfat
    it is just a more common approach, and yes easier, all things being equal

    your post brings to mind another thing bolt..i have long scratched my head at the designation CHO for carbohydrates
    yes i realize we are referring to chemical formulation structure of a carb (Carbon Hydrogen Oxygen), but we do not do this with either protein [NH3CHRCOOH] or fats [CH3(CH2)xCOOH] ....

    CHO always makes me think of cholesterol

  3. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    yeah i'm not trying to be too finite here, because there are many roads that lead to Rome
    but - the body is an incredibly adaptive organism..i will espouse that, given the proper timeframe to adapt body and the proper approach, carbs are NOT needed to build muscle, nor are they needed to "keep" muscle when cutting bodyfat
    it is just a more common approach, and yes easier, all things being equal

    your post brings to mind another thing bolt..i have long scratched my head at the designation CHO for carbohydrates
    yes i realize we are referring to chemical formulation structure of a carb (Carbon Hydrogen Oxygen), but we do not do this with either protein [NH3CHRCOOH] or fats [CH3(CH2)xCOOH] ....

    CHO always makes me think of cholesterol
    I just got lost.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    I just got lost.
    that's okay

    i'm rambling..
    but my essential point here being: the main function of carbs is energy, pure & simple; not musculature accrual
    the body can utilize other chemicals for fuel, than just carbs
    again, not poo-pooing the idea of carbs here, just playing devil's advocate and clarifying
  5. Re: Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing


    Poo poo sir!
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  6. lol ya I usually write PRO, CHO, or FAT just because its shorter but love that intellectual breakdown you just threw out.
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  7. So we get that computer fixed yet? I want to see the big reveal you were thinking about earlier this week.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    So we get that computer fixed yet? I want to see the big reveal you were thinking about earlier this week.
    nope
    is okay tho, i got other things going on right now..gives me more time to hide and floor you guys with these crazy changes
    serious man - ya'll gonna be shocked

  9. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    nope
    is okay tho, i got other things going on right now..gives me more time to hide and floor you guys with these crazy changes
    serious man - ya'll gonna be shocked
    Fine! Be that way I will just not put up any update pics for close to 2 weeks then. Oh wait that was already the plan.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Fine! Be that way I will just not put up any update pics for close to 2 weeks then. Oh wait that was already the plan.
    well then
    wanna see who can shock who the most?


  11. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Fine! Be that way I will just not put up any update pics for close to 2 weeks then. Oh wait that was already the plan.
    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    well then
    wanna see who can shock who the most?

    Interested
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  12. Competition! Finaflex Reps Rock!

  13. I'm not posting pics until snags does tooooooooo! Mine won't be shocking b though lol.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I'm not posting pics until snags does tooooooooo! Mine won't be shocking b though lol.
    I say they'll be shockingly awesome!

    Post pics so I have inspiration!

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I'm not posting pics until snags does tooooooooo! Mine won't be shocking b though lol.
    oh no man - i love to inspire, but i'm not trying to inspire anyone to hide out with me!
    there's enuff pics in my thread to hold you guys off for awhile

    funny thing is - i got three computers, but one is packed up, and the other is a brand new laptop i just bought, still in the box haven't set it up yet..i'll get around to it sooner or later, but for that reason i'm not in a hurry to have this one looked at
    (it is hardware issue btw guys, not virus or anything)

    non-pictorial update: weight ~197.5 this morning, more shredded..think i may have me a slight carb-up this day, some unplanned alterations
    (that means i am way ahead of schedule)
    training has been changed to a 3-day split, like this

    chest/shoulders/abs
    legs
    back/arms/abs
    off

    then run the split again, but vary the exercises/reps/weight

    repeat from beginning


    this is my long-standing preferred contest prep routine

  16. fyi guys - i have 3 weeks left in this log, then we'll call it a wrap
    finishing with a flurry here....


    updated supp protocol for the duration:


    Max Pump, 4 caps uncapped, mixing with my Ignite2 and BCAA+SAA, ~30min preWO
    (also 4 caps at night with final meal)

    550 + epi, dosing each 6 daily at 3 breakfast/3 dinner, 12hrs apart

    PXB, 2 caps rising + 2 caps 6-8hrs later, 30min prior to meals

    ALC+CLA @3/3/3

    recompadrol as needed, meals of 20g+ carbs

  17. Are you competing any time this year?
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285 View Post
    Are you competing any time this year?
    well that was the plan
    i don't know that i'll be able to pull it off, with everything else i got going on right now
    not thinking about it currently, just going thru the practice run right now, will let things work out on their own

  19. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    fyi guys - i have 3 weeks left in this log, then we'll call it a wrap
    finishing with a flurry here....


    updated supp protocol for the duration:


    Max Pump, 4 caps uncapped, mixing with my Ignite2 and BCAA+SAA, ~30min preWO
    (also 4 caps at night with final meal)

    550 + epi, dosing each 6 daily at 3 breakfast/3 dinner, 12hrs apart

    PXB, 2 caps rising + 2 caps 6-8hrs later, 30min prior to meals

    ALC+CLA @3/3/3

    recompadrol as needed, meals of 20g+ carbs
    60mg of Epi Snags? I'm shocked you can tolerate that dose, its very very high. What brand is it?
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  20. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post

    60mg of Epi Snags? I'm shocked you can tolerate that dose, its very very high. What brand is it?
    When he says epi I can be sure that he means epi-v. Finaflex epi-v
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348

  21. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    When he says epi I can be sure that he means epi-v. Finaflex epi-v
    See that makes sense, my joints were aching for the man!
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  22. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    When he says epi I can be sure that he means epi-v. Finaflex epi-v
    ummm, yes - of course my friend

    if you been following, you know it is surely Epi-V

    i don't mess with epistane


    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    60mg of Epi Snags? I'm shocked you can tolerate that dose, its very very high. What brand is it?
    all product being used current is Finaflex, with exception of recompadrol

  23. 6 ed is optimal dose of epi-v and 550 imo yah. Can you say shredded...
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Can you say shredded...
    i can


    mmmm..can't show you guys this this food pic!

    5oz albacore tuna + handful veggies
    2 whole eggs+3 whites + 2 slices low-fat american cheese (omelette style!)
    ~450cals

    friggin tasty

  25. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    i can

    mmmm..can't show you guys this this food pic!

    5oz albacore tuna + handful veggies
    2 whole eggs+3 whites + 2 slices low-fat american cheese (omelette style!)
    ~450cals

    friggin tasty
    Pics or it never happened. Did your furnace have a talk with your computer?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post

    Pics or it never happened. Did your furnace have a talk with your computer?
    Computer was so mad at furnace for keeping it too cold it decided to rage against the "machine"! Lol

  27. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post

    Computer was so mad at furnace for keeping it too cold it decided to rage against the "machine"! Lol
    Sounds like an episode of Futurama.

  28. No not looking to compete for the most drastic changes. I am far from lean enough for a few lbs of fat loss to make a drastic improvement, as to where Snags was already pretty lean last pics I saw of him and a few lbs makes a world of difference.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    No not looking to compete for the most drastic changes. I am far from lean enough for a few lbs of fat loss to make a drastic improvement, as to where Snags was already pretty lean last pics I saw of him and a few lbs makes a world of difference.
    yeah i was just playing with ya..not in your best interest to try to shed fat quick right now, slow & steady as she goes man..i wanna see you hold as much muscle as possible while you get down there

    as for me - man i'm not trying to lose weight either! figure i'm doing pretty good, holding roughly where i'm at
    we'll see how these last few weeks treat me, but rough guesstimations i'm looking at - may have added a good 4-5lbs of actual muscle tissue (and possibly as much as 6-7) since last august

  30. Yah I am just shedding slowly, funny I am down to 201.5, which is 5.5 lbs in the last 4 weeks and by my calculations I am only about 900-1000 cals below maintenance per week. Not complaining though if anything I look bigger. I have the last adjustments we talked about pencilied in. Things are really looking clean, I think these content adjustments will enable me to keep cals steady for a couple more weeks.
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  31. ima tease you guys for awhile..
    this one here is not even recent


  32. meals are pretty plain these days..all a means to an end



    10oz canned chicken breast w/ dijon chardonnay mustard + veggies
    side of 1/2 TBS almond butter

    don't use canned much at all, matter of convenience this day..also more veggies than usual here - i was hungry

  33. Kinda looks like my lunches at work. Mine are just 8oz of uncanned baked chicken breast and then veggies, generally steamed carrots.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348

  34. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Kinda looks like my lunches at work. Mine are just 8oz of uncanned baked chicken breast and then veggies, generally steamed carrots.
    yeah - problem is, while this is my smallest feeding of the day, all meals are small these days
    i have implemented a reduction in cals for these last couple weeks, and food choices are finite

  35. Hrmmm. Looking pretty lean already in those pics. Wonder what's to come
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  36. The new avi...Fark bro
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  37. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    The new avi...Fark bro
    not recent

    these are tho







    the sneakiest of sneak pics
    still not ready to give it all away, cuz there's still crazy changes ahead to make ..just wait

    man i hate taking pics of my own back, so goofy

  38. Looks like you have a large molar in the middle of your back. Great definition. You're a beast sir.

  39. last one, till i'm all the way done


  40. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    last one, till i'm all the way done
    One holyhoooooouuuuuggggge brother in iron! Nice job Snags! What an inspiration!! Serious!
  

  
 

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