Whats the latest take on PCT for Havoc?

  1. Whats the latest take on PCT for Havoc?


    i have 2 bottles of havoc coming iN, which i plan on doing late summer or end of the year.

    i cant come to a definitive conclusion yet, but im leaning on that ATD with a test booster isnt enough, that instead of ATD i should straight up do a Serm.

    so in 2010, is the final word that you have to have a Serm pct to run Havoc? if so someone please pm me what site i can get a serm at. my own risk of course. i have tropical formestane if that matters.

    age 32,
    experience trifecta stack, and currently running h-drol
    나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!


  2. Google is your best friend. You will com across SERMs. Id run Nolva at 20/20/10/10

    u can add PCS it's pretty decent for PCT add it in week 2 of PCT. Also consider a cort blocker. DS Lean extreme pretty awesome, if u do get it run in wk 3.

    Hope this helps

  3. Honestly havoc has SERM and Anti-E like properties....it's so mild you can OTC it. I'd still have a SERM handy though just in case.

    I would not run foremstane with epi....it would lower your estrogen way too much IMO
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Honestly havoc has SERM and Anti-E like properties....it's so mild you can OTC it. I'd still have a SERM handy though just in case.

    I would not run foremstane with epi....it would lower your estrogen way too much IMO
    is possible run @ low dose 20mg a day?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    is possible run @ low dose 20mg a day?
    Yeah but for what purpose? I just don't see the benefit in that.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Yeah but for what purpose? I just don't see the benefit in that.
    i used maybe a year ago and the shutdown was hard i think is the ATD in it.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    i used maybe a year ago and the shutdown was hard i think is the ATD in it.
    It had the complete opposite effect on me....I was walking around with a permanent hard on.

    ATD...i've never heard this and have not seen proof that Havoc (Epistane) has ATD in it's ingredient profile.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    It had the complete opposite effect on me....I was walking around with a permanent hard on.

    ATD...i've never heard this and have not seen proof that Havoc (Epistane) has ATD in it's ingredient profile.
    Really i will run the stuff soon expires on june/2010 but i not wish use a SERM!!!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    Really i will run the stuff soon expires on june/2010 but i not wish use a SERM!!!
    That's okay it will still be good past the expiration date. Some need a SERM, some do not. There are plenty of OTC options available and plenty of OTC PCT threads for havoc.
  

  
 

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