Want to stock up on SARMs for the Ban? (HELP)

[Jakeoh]

Hey all! 28 yrs, 6'3", 200lbs @ 7.8%. I've trained for about 15 years mostly on and recently took off, been back into it for a few months after taking ~3yrs off or so.

I'ved used a few PEDs back in the day when you could buy some of them OTC, back when I was 18-21 (young I know, but I was training for the Olympics in high school as a swimmer and stuff like 6-oxo and Epistane wasn't on the WADA radar yet). I've been Natty since then and plan to do a few shows in a Natty league to get my feet wet for about a year, starting in September or November.

My question is, I do not plan to remain natural forever and I want to stock up on some SARMs now while I can buy them "legally" before they go the way of AIs and PHs.

I'm most interested in myostatin inhibitors and was intrigued by YK11.

Can I get some advice on what to buy up for my stock pile? If this was my only chance to ever buy any gear again (it's not I hope) what would you tell me to buy and hold onto for the future (about a year in advance)?

I potentially have access to letrozole, and tamoxifen for PCT. But if the plug falls through I'll buy PCT through UGLs and take the gamble of buying stuff online which I've never tried.

 

[SARMS]

Well I wouldn't worry about holding onto YK11 as it's really a steroidal (DHT derived) steroid with MORE selectivity than other AAS, but less so than other true sarms. As for your goals, I'd stockpile them as follows:

LGD 4033: Top priority as it the most anabolic of all the sarms and is the premium bulker, get as much as you can for this one.

RAD140: Second most powerful sarms as far as gains go, though may be more expensive.

ANDARINE: The weakest in terms f anabolism but great for strength gains and a hardener comparable to Winstrol

CARDARINE: This sarm (though really a PPAR delta agonist) is the premium cutter, indirectly by increasing endurance massively and maybe also directly by affecting fat metabolism.

Stacking up on these should allow you to attain any goal (Mass/strength/Fat loss)

 

[YoungThor]

The list above was pretty good. I don’t care for cardarine but I won’t get into that. I just want to add S23. This SARM is potentially gonna come out on top as the king mass builder. Maybe lgd is still better but S23 is close. I think S23 gives slightly “cleaner” gains.

 

[Cgkone]

SARMs will still be available.
RC sources are cheaper any ways......unless you really want a fancy label and yourLGD to be called "POWERnGROW" haha

 

[Mike Arnold]

SARMs will still be available.
RC sources are cheaper any ways......unless you really want a fancy label and yourLGD to be called "POWERnGROW" haha

RC companies won't be carrying them anymore either (after the 2018 SARM ban is passed), as they will be controlled substances. RC companies can't sell controlled substances without risking prison time.

 

[SARMS]

RC companies won't be carrying them anymore either (after the 2018 SARM ban is passed), as they will be controlled substances. RC companies can't sell controlled substances without risking prison time.

Yeah people seem to forget that RC don't have a pretence to sell any illegal compounds, otherwise they would sell AAS etc

 

[SARMS]

The list above was pretty good. I don’t care for cardarine but I won’t get into that. I just want to add S23. This SARM is potentially gonna come out on top as the king mass builder. Maybe lgd is still better but S23 is close. I think S23 gives slightly “cleaner” gains.

Yeah I don't care for Cardarine either, it's unknown effect on cancer etc

 

[Cgkone]

RC companies won't be carrying them anymore either (after the 2018 SARM ban is passed), as they will be controlled substances. RC companies can't sell controlled substances without risking prison time.

So selling sarms will be a felony? Are we sure the ban will pass?

 

[Cgkone]

I've got boxes of sarms...every kind. Guess when they get banned ill have to throw them away.
I hope nobody PM me asking about sarms after they are a felony

 

[christ83189]

I've got boxes of sarms...every kind. Guess when they get banned ill have to throw them away.
I hope nobody PM me asking about sarms after they are a felony

Lol

 

[Cgkone]

Lol

 

[Mike Arnold]

So selling sarms will be a felony? Are we sure the ban will pass?

Yes, it will be a felony. Selling controlled substances is always a felony.

I (and most others who are educated on the subject) are about 95% sure the new law will pass.

 

[Cgkone]

Yes, it will be a felony. Selling controlled substances is always a felony.

I (and most others who are educated on the subject) are about 95% sure the new law will pass.

Yeah I've been looking through it all day. Most people think it's going to happen. But which ones is the question correct

 

[Cgkone]

Yes, it will be a felony. Selling controlled substances is always a felony.

I (and most others who are educated on the subject) are about 95% sure the new law will pass.

So what is possession of a vial of deca and a bottle of dbol?
Not being a smart-ass serious question I thought possession of the stuff was a gray area is that true?

 

[YoungThor]

I don’t think possession of AAS is a gray area. I think the law is cut and draw about that. But people rarely face legal penalties for possession of these substances. Even getting caught ordering them often results in a warning.

 

[Cgkone]

I heard that s23 and s4 are being banned.
Lgd osta have been bought by pharma companies.
Not sure how correct this is

 

[Smont]

The list above was pretty good. I don’t care for cardarine but I won’t get into that. I just want to add S23. This SARM is potentially gonna come out on top as the king mass builder. Maybe lgd is still better but S23 is close. I think S23 gives slightly “cleaner” gains.

I got 2 friends who are running s23 Right now and at 30mg they are comparing it to 50mg of winstrol

 

[mikeymike85]

I got 2 friends who are running s23 Right now and at 30mg they are comparing it to 50mg of winstrol

Are you serious? It gives you that grainy look? Find that hard to believe...

 

[Cgkone]

Are you serious? It gives you that grainy look? Find that hard to believe...

No it does not.
It puts 10lbs on u in a couple weeks.
For me it was a sloppy weird bulk.
S4 is more like winny. IMO

 

[Chunkx]

Cant go wrong with Ostarine and LGD

 

[Smont]

Are you serious? It gives you that grainy look? Find that hard to believe...

Very serious. But. I've herd, from ppl on this forum I don't know personally that it did nothing. Il take the word of ppl I know and actually see there results

 

[Smont]

No it does not.
It puts 10lbs on u in a couple weeks.
For me it was a sloppy weird bulk.
S4 is more like winny. IMO

Goes back to what I was saying. I saw it did nothing for you. But I have friends that I can actually see there results and it's great for them. Everyone is different

 

[Smont]

Cant go wrong with Ostarine and LGD

Osta is trash in my opinion

 

[christ83189]

Osta is trash in my opinion

I agree with this

 

[Chunkx]

Osta is trash in my opinion

Please explain. I saw great results from it and have many others. Joint pain subsided, got noticeably leaner, felt my mood enhanced, etc.

 

[christ83189]

Please explain. I saw great results from it and have many others. Joint pain subsided, got noticeably leaner, felt my mood enhanced, etc.

I just never got anything from it. Like at all. I know some people respond well to it but i dont and theres way better things out there for me to be wasting money on that

 

[thefrenchmen]

S4 didn’t do much, the vision effects were pretty cool. After being outside for a while and going back inside I didn’t know what color shirts people were wearing! Also, the pain in my knee was completely gone after the cycle.

 

[irone93]

S23 is where it’s at!

 

[Slapoyjoe]

RC companies won't be carrying them anymore either (after the 2018 SARM ban is passed), as they will be controlled substances. RC companies can't sell controlled substances without risking prison time.

This is only true in the USA. I expect sarms to continue to be sold in the UK, and therefore Europe, until (if) the UK exits the EU customs union. Many Americans will be ordering from the UK I imagine.

 

[Cgkone]

Goes back to what I was saying. I saw it did nothing for you. But I have friends that I can actually see there results and it's great for them. Everyone is different

True

 

[Cgkone]

Please explain. I saw great results from it and have many others. Joint pain subsided, got noticeably leaner, felt my mood enhanced, etc.

Its just really weak.
It can help joints and gives you a good "on" feeling

 

[irone93]

I have had minimal strength gains. You feel full and get great pumps though

 

[Studhorse]

You guys sound knowledgeable on sarms.
A guy at the gym (Don't know why everyone asks me this stuff lol)? told me he got 2 bottles of LGD 4033 in pills I think 11mg.(kind of odd) and 100 in each bottle.
He is about 6'4" and weighs about 195. He is in his mid 40's If I had to guess.

Shouldn't he use something to keep from suppressing his test? Something Like TD trest? He told me he is not on TRT and doesnt like needles.
How should he dose this?
What is good to help with test suppression? Preferably legal. at least in the UK.

Does LGD jack with estrogen?

 

[RickyBlobby]

Clomid on cycle kept my test from getting suppressed. Bloodwork to prove it. There were about 4 other people in the thread I made that said the same thing. Anything else will shut down his test, especially trest.

That said, trest is amazing

 

[Cgkone]

I've heard from a couple places that SARM s will not be banned.
Maybe s23 and s4.
Could be wrong.
When is this ban suppose to happen?

 

[Studhorse]

Clomid on cycle kept my test from getting suppressed. Bloodwork to prove it. There were about 4 other people in the thread I made that said the same thing. Anything else will shut down his test, especially trest.

That said, trest is amazing

Thanks!
How should he dose it? and should he keep up the clomid for 4 weeks PCT?

 

[BillD]

Clomid on cycle kept my test from getting suppressed. Bloodwork to prove it. There were about 4 other people in the thread I made that said the same thing. Anything else will shut down his test, especially trest.

That said, trest is amazing

 

[Studhorse]

So LGD-4033 should have a test base and then a AAS type PCT?

Did some research: Seems to be the most common from guys that seem to know there stuff.
LGD 10MG a day for 12 weeks.
DermaTrest at 2ml a day starting week 4. (if not on TRT or don't want to pin)
Novla 20/20/10/10

 

[Cgkone]

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I think this is incorrect.

 

[Cgkone]

So LGD-4033 should have a test base and then a AAS type PCT?

Did some research: Seems to be the most common from guys that seem to know there stuff.
LGD 10MG a day for 12 weeks.
DermaTrest at 2ml a day starting week 4. (if not on TRT or don't want to pin)
Novla 20/20/10/10

That will work to. But this is more aggressive than LGD+SERM

 

[BillD]

I think this is incorrect.

Your guess is as good as mine...just showing a response I received from the guy that’s connected to my source.

 

[Cgkone]

Your guess is as good as mine...just showing a response I received from the guy that’s connected to my source.

And I'm not sure. I just "think" its wrong.

 

[Studhorse]

That will work to. But this is more aggressive than LGD+SERM

So you don't need a test base to Run LGD for 12 weeks at 10mg a day?

 

[Cgkone]

So you don't need a test base to Run LGD for 12 weeks at 10mg a day?

No you do. Clomid could be the base.
No Clomid then. Treat. 4andro. Decramine. Epiandro. In decending order of sides.

 

[Cgkone]

So you don't need a test base to Run LGD for 12 weeks at 10mg a day?

Some people use RAD 140 as a base

 

[BillD]

Some people use RAD 140 as a base

At what dosage? Isn’t rad extremely suppressive?

 

[Cgkone]

At what dosage? Isn’t rad extremely suppressive?

Yup. Most bases are suppressive.
I don't know the dosage. But rad acts a lot like test.
Clomid would not be suppressive

 

[YoungThor]

Some people use RAD 140 as a base

I did not know this. Does it boost libido and energy and all that? I hear it causes aggression.

 

[Cgkone]

I did not know this. Does it boost libido and energy and all that? I hear it causes aggression.

Yup.
I didn't get anything from RAD. But I'm always on res.
My buddy wad on osta for 8 weeks. Sex drive was low. He added RAD and energy, sex drive , mood all went up.

 

[Cgkone]

I did not know this. Does it boost libido and energy and all that? I hear it causes aggression.

I've heard several people run it as a base.